Hello!

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

Hi! My name is Amy and I found out yesterday that I am 14ws2ds pregnant with my first child. It's pretty exciting.

My bf and I have already decided on two names: Morgan for a girl, Damien for a boy.

The main reason why I'm here is I want to see what you think about the name Damien. Both of our families HATE that name and I believe it's only because they are aware of the movie "The Omen". Plus both of our families are pretty religious ( my bf and I happen to be Atheist). I can't stand it when they tell me not to name my son Damien because it's the devil's son and he will turn out evil. I think it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.I keep telling them that before the 70's no one ever thought of the name Damien to be associated with the devil, and nowhere in the bible does it say that the devil had a son named Damien. I mean, if I was to name him Charlie would they get on me about naming him after Charles Manson, or if I named him John would they get on me for naming him after John Wayne Gacy? I don't think so.

What do you guys think and do you have any ideas of what I can say to them to shut them up? (that is if you agree on the name)

Comments

[mizsfrankie.livejournal.com]

I like the name Damien alot, I'm not religous and neither is my family, but umm, Maybe you could use a biblical name for his middle name? maybe that will shut them up? Or maybe that would offend them...um, I dont know lol.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

well, we already have a middle name picked out (well, my bf picked it out bcuz I picked Damien) and it's not biblical. He will be Damien Jay.

i think a biblical middle name will offend us. lol.

[sandtree.livejournal.com]

Tell them that there were saints and other religious figures named Damian.

I think that a lot of people will think of 'The Omen' if you name your son Damian/Damien, and that's just something you'll have to deal with... but it's a fine name, there's nothing wrong with it, and I don't think it's too tainted by the movie.

[hemlockheart.livejournal.com]

The main religious figure I think of is Father Damien, who helped lepers in Hawaii.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Damien (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Damien)

I like both of your name choices a lot. I don't know the dynamics of your family, but in the end, this child is yours and your boyfriend's to name, and you may just have to tell them as politely or firmly as they may need to hear- sorry, but I like this name, I'm using it, deal with it. You've already told them accurately that there's nothing other than a 70's movie anywhere that says the devil has a son named Damien, that should be enough to spark some common sense, so I'm guessing they might be over-using religion as an excuse because they just don't like the name and think if they have a "reason" maybe you'll change your mind.

[so-there.livejournal.com]

I like Damien. it was on my list for a long time, until I found out my BIL and SIL had Damian on their list (and got to use it earlier this month!)

we're religious, they're religious... as was mentioned, it's a saint name too! or, well, a Blessed if we want to get technical..

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

aw, im sorry, thats sucks!!! i didn't think Damien was that popular.

[stillbefree.livejournal.com]

I like the name Damien. If you want to name your son that, go ahead. your family cant tell you what you can and cant name your kid. It's YOUR kid. It really bugs me when family members tells teh expecting parents what they can and cant name their child. Damien is a fine name. :)

Morgan... I hate the name. sorry. I've always have.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

thank you. thats what im trying to tell them. im like, "when you have a son, name it whatever you like, but when i'm popping this child out it will have the name that I pick". my sister named her son Max and I can't stand that name (I've worked with dogs for too long, Max is a dogs name to me) and I didn't say anything to her bcuz I have manners, and she's my twin sister for gods sake. i just wish people would think before they speak.

thats ok. it just so happened that me and my bfs favorite girl name is Morgan so it stuck. her middle name will be Rae, after my godmom who died May '07.

[wolff.livejournal.com]

you have to do what you want to do, regardless. we've gotten a lot of flack from our families about the names that we picked, but in the end... you have to do what makes you happy.

if we have a boy his name will be Cyril after my great-grandfather and i've always loved the name but the other day i was watching TV and the murderer on the show was named Cyril and it put a sour taste in my mouth... but you have to remember.. there are crazy people everywhere with every name... it doesn't mean your child is going to end up like that just by sharing a name.

sounds like your parents need some good connotations with the name.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

thats true, there are crazy people everywhere with every name. our families are just super crazy themselves.

Cyril is one of a kind, how do you even pronounce it?

ps. i like ur icon. lol.

[pyrokitten77.livejournal.com]

I love the name Damien, and I don't understand why everyone freaks out when they hear it. Just ask them if they'll love him less if his name is Damien. I bet they say no.

Love Morgan too, btw. :)

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

thats actually a good idea to ask them that question. i'm gunna try it.

knowing my bfs sisters they will say yes.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

in a sick way i completely agree with you. i can especially bug my mom with that kind of control. i was a vegetarian before i got pregnant and started eating meat again for the baby and my mom is all excited bcuz she HATED me for being a vegetarian. everytime we go out to eat and she says something about it i keep telling her that after the baby is born i'm going back to my vegetarian lifestyle. it drives her crazy bcuz she can't control my life anymore.

[laminy.livejournal.com]

I know that when I hear Charles, I always think Charles Manson. Same with Jeffrey, and Jeffrey Dahmer. I don't think that a kid named Damien would end up evil, but that kid's all I ever think. Nanny's jumping off the roof, screaming his name.

I hate it anyway, it's really not my style, but I think that The Omen is something a lot of people think about when they hear it.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

lol, that kid is what everyone thinks of. its a good movie, one of my faves.

[miss-tee.livejournal.com]

I'm due in 2 weeks and this is why we haven't told our families our name choices. Well, not exactly, because no one is going to have a religious problem with our names (Eleanor Violet or Caleb Phineas) but I am just not interested in people's input and once they see the baby no one is going to say "jeez what a crappy name..."

I love the name Morgan. I'm not to keen on Damien cos I know a Damian who is pretty difficult but if you like it you should go for it!

[taleofaredhead.livejournal.com]

I LOVE your name choices!

[childproof.livejournal.com]

damien is a great name and if our baby was a boy we were going to name him that.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

right on!

[azelmaroark.livejournal.com]

What laminy said. I don't like it, but it's your child: tell them to shove it if you don't agree with their opinion. But you also should be aware that most people today are totally going to think of the demon kid in The Omen when they hear the name. If you're okay with that, then by all means, use it.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

im completely ok with them thinking about the movie/kid when they hear his name. i love that movie. i just don't need my family telling me to change it and giving me names that THEY think are suitable for my kid. i think it's pretty ignorant.

[taleofaredhead.livejournal.com]

Damien isn't a bad name. I wouldn't choose it myself but I don't hate it.

Morgan I dislike as a girl's name.

I think you should tell your parents that they got their chance to name you, and now it's you and boyfriend's turn to name your own child. I think pointing out that no, the devil does not have a son named Damien is a good idea, but obviously they aren't listening.

What about telling them that there are multiple Saint Damien's? Here's just one website found under a Google search of "St. Damien": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Damien

Maybe by making that point, it will help them to calm down. You aren't naming your kid Lucifer or Diablo, after all.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

i've been telling our families that whenever they want to pop out a son of their own they can name it whatever they like but now this is my turn.

but of course they don't listen. both of our families are religious and they are throwing away all their knowledge of their religion on one stupid movie.

and i have deff tried telling them about all the "good" Damiens from back in the day but that doesn't matter, theres a movie with an evil kid named Damien in it! thats all that matters to them.

my cousin pissed me off the other day bcuz of course she hates the name Damien for all the wrong reasons and shes telling me that my kid is going to have to go thru life with that name and then she tells me that if she had a son she would name him Dante! are you kidding me?!!!!!

[girlsteve.livejournal.com]

I try not to let other peoples connotations put me off names. I like the name Damien, and maybe it's because I never actually saw it, but I don't instantly think of The Omen when I hear it, so it doesn't stop ME liking them name. The only time I consider connotations is if they're my connotations - I love the name Rapheal, and I have loads of good connotations for it, but I do also think I might spend the rest of my life thinking Ninja Turtle when I called my own kid. I'm getting over that though...

The way I see it, if I had a boy now I'd probably name him Frasier, and for all I know in two years time there might be a massive film or book come out where the main character is a rapist or a murderer with that name. You just can't prepare for everything.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

omg, u mite be the only person that doesn't automatically think of the movie when you hear that name. ur awsome. lol.

and the TMNT are awsome. i was obsessed when i was little so if i heard Rapheal i would have to think back to them. Michaelangelo was my fave.

[amaterasa.livejournal.com]

I love the name, but I am biased because it is my my stepson's name. His name is spelled Daemion, however.

[aquilinum.livejournal.com]

Whoa! That spelling really emphasizes the connection to the word "daemon", don't you think?

[alexandria-skye.livejournal.com]

i love the name damien, and i don't instantly make the connection with "the omen". it's your kid, and if you and your significant other like the name, you should be able to use it. plus, "the omen" isn't really related to the bible. i'm assuming the middle name won't be lucifer... ;) (even if it were, it's your kid, not the devil!)

(i "l.o.l."ed at your john comment :D )

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

yes, we deffinatly both like the name. well, actually i won the name game if it's to be a boy. my bf wanted Jonas and I was like, "no.." but we both agree on Damien.

the omen completely has nothing to do with the bible and thats what pisses me off about this so much. with our families being as religious as they are they can't see past that. my bfs sister is in a religious class in college for christ sake!

[solagirl.livejournal.com]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090221/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vatican_saint


Here is an article about an interesting Damien.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

thank you.

[cassandrakfreaq.livejournal.com]

my 4 yr old is a happy boy morgan...since technically speaking it IS a boy name.....people jsut dont name their girls morgana anymore so they stole the male variant

[chirpygirly.livejournal.com]

I feel like I can relate. Originally, after I found out we were having a boy, which was right about 5 months along, my husband and I had decided on Jacob and that's what we told our families the name was going to be. Soon enough though, I found out how popular it was. I had long thought of using one of the names I'd made up through the years. One name in particular I had suggested to my husband when we were going over names, but he said no. But once I found out how popular Jacob was, and having grown up with a popular name and thus knowing the frustration of it, I told my husband we wouldn't be using Jacob, that we would have to choose another name.

I again suggested the same made up name to my husband, I had previously, that he had said no to. Second time around though, he actually agreed. I made the name up from an already existing name in the bible. I didn't bother to read up on the person with that name though, not thinking it mattered. Apparently to my crazy in-laws it does.

I had figured people wouldn't be thrilled about a name they'd never heard before and that was unusual, so we decided to wait til my son was born to tell them. It didn't just not go over well, but apparently some stupid older relative of my husband's psychotic religious zealots of a family claimed the name I made up was the exact name I derived it from, and that the person with that name was an evil person, and thus somehow they believed my son would turn out evil, because of the name I gave him, which isn't even the same name! They are so messed up, they've refused to call my son by his real name, instead calling him a nick name of the first name I had picked out and revealed, only half way through my pregnancy, and had used only for about 2 months, before changing my mind.

Now, as for your name choices. Morgan isn't my style, but it's fine. Damien isn't my style either, but it's not bad, it's not 'evil', because names aren't evil. Naming your son Damien will not make him evil! People are crazy!
So if you and your man like it, go for it, and don't tolerate any disrespect from your family over it. The day they carry a child, and give birth, they can use whatever name they want!

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

im so sorry you had to go thru that! i have no idea why family can be so ignorant. it's disgusting. if they love you, they should love your baby and everything that comes along with it.

ever since my bf and i had told his sisters what we wanted to name him if it were a boy they've been txting us everday suggesting new names they think are suitable for our child but for the time being they are both calling the baby "BL" after their own names Becky/Laura. if you can believe it their both in college.

[cassandrakfreaq.livejournal.com]

I AM religous...like in encompasses my whole life and even I think thats retarded!!! I have heard another christian say the same thing before and i'm like "dude you DO realise that is not in the bible.....so why would they care about it?" it makes no sense and its people being religous a-holes (which I abhor)

I like the name damian.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

thank you so much. you just prove to me that not all religious people are out to lunch. i have nothing against people and their religions but when they act as ignorant as my family is it drives me crazy. good for you!

[aquilinum.livejournal.com]

I HATE HATE HATE the name "Damien" — and I've never seen this movie you're talking about. But honestly, Damien is incredibly reminiscent of the word "Daemon" — which, I'm sure, is exactly why it was picked for a movie.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

they didn't pick the name Damien because it sounds like "Daemon", they picked the name Damien for the movie because it sounds like demon but I would have to say the name Damon sounds more like demon than Damien does.

[intheshadows13.livejournal.com]

I love the name Damien. I almost named my son that but ended up naming him Lukas Alexander instead. However if I have another son I may end up naming him Damien Gabriel. My sister also thinks that the name is evil but its your kids name and they will have to deal with it.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

and deal with it they will.

[girlinacadillac.livejournal.com]

I LOVE those names. I love Damien too.
It's stupid that people associate it with the Omen. I mean, no one has any problems naming their kids Freddy or Jason.

[crazee-amy.livejournal.com]

lmao, thats exactly what I said!!!

[hoochiehoops.livejournal.com]

Tbh I hate Damien also it seems like every one I know is naming there sons Damien and I have to say it does remind me of The Omen. I'm not saying you shouldn't name him that because of the movie but I don't like it.

[tiarrajanae.livejournal.com]

I love the name Damien. I think you should definitely use it if that's what you and your bf love. Your family members go their choice when they named their kids. As long as you two love it, they really shouldn't have any say.