[identity profile] batting0.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] babynames
So my baby sister (20) just told me yesterday she's having a boy--he's due March 17, but will come early, as she has to have a C-Section so they'll likely pick a date at least a week earlier, possibly even 2.

She let the father choose the first name since she had no boys names chosen, and the winner is::

Raysean (spelling may be different, not positive)

Yes, it's the combination of Ray and Sean. Pronounced just like you'd think. There IS a story behind the name--Ray and Sean are the names of his brothers, both currently deceased (one suicide, one murder). So the name has a meaning, and isn't just something he put together...

I'm not crazy about it, but it's not my choice, and I support my sister's decision.

Anyone have any suggestions for middle names that I can pass to her? She doesn't like any boys' names, really...

thanks for any help!!

Date: 2008-10-12 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] th3-unicorn.livejournal.com
Two tragic deaths behind a name, what a better way to cherish a new life into the world..?

It honestly makes me want to pronounce it close to "raisin", like saying Asia in the middle.

I'm at a loss about middle name suggestions. It's not like it belongs in any category that you can pick from and match.. I guess the best fit would be also a name that has a special meaning to them.

But you could suggest they do Ray (first) Sean (middle), or the other way around, maybe choosing the oldest brother for the first name or something like that.

Date: 2008-10-12 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/__recidivist/
RaShawn is at least actually a name. I agree with the other commenter: I want to pronounce "Raysean" "ray-sin"-- like a pretentious raisin.

I think that I would support my sister and her partner's choice, but suggest I'd also suggest Ray Sean or Sean Ray-- either as a first and middle combo, or even a double first name thing (like George Michael). All one name is a little confusing.

Date: 2008-10-12 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juniorfan29.livejournal.com
Except for the fact that they DID sort of pick one to be first. Raysean instead of Seanray. But, that's just my $.02

Date: 2008-10-12 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freezemyazaleas.livejournal.com
What about Shay or Shea? That's like a combination of Ray and Sean.

Date: 2008-10-12 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azelmaroark.livejournal.com
This right here is why "kry8tv" people naming after family is very bad.

I second Shea. It's a girls' name to me, but frankly it's hard to be worse than what they chose. Colleges and potential employers are not going to know or care about the admittedly-good intentions behind the name.

Date: 2008-10-12 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piecesofmoi.livejournal.com
I was going to say I didnt like the name, but when you explain the meaning behind it it takes on a whole new light, and I think its a great choice. I also don't like many boy names, but my sons are Adrian, Dylan and if this next one is a boy he will be Taylor. I also like Andon and Preston, but DH doesnt, and Preston would sound very generic coming after Sean nowadays. None of those really sound good with Raysean though. Actually, Im having trouble really pairing anything with that to make it flow nicely lol. Alexander could work, depending on the last name and how it sounds.

Date: 2008-10-12 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahness.livejournal.com
Your sister and the baby's father need to understand that just because you put one name before the other doesn't mean you're choosing a favorite sibling. The names can't magically come at the same time unless it's in some kind of combination (such as Shay/Shea or even Ron). The fact of the matter is, with naming a child Raysean you're still putting Ray before Sean (if they're looking at it that way). No sense in giving your child a terrible name if you're going to put one name in front of the other anyway.

Sigh...I guess I understand that the name is very important to the father. I just wish he could understand that it's an atrocity to give your child such a name.

Date: 2008-10-12 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairyfantastic.livejournal.com
I have no input, but I had to slightly lol (sorry) at the way you phrased this... "both currently deceased". Lol, sorry to seem so insensitive!

Date: 2008-10-12 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandria-skye.livejournal.com
"naming him Ray Sean or Sean Ray made it seem like they were choosing a favorite sibling, and they didn't want one to be before another one, just together"
technically aren't they still putting ray first? just squished together...

i second the shea/shay idea, even if it's more of a girl's name to me.

maybe they can use one of the brother's middle names? the baby's first name is one of their middle names, and the baby's middle name is one of the brother's first names... in my ocd mind, that makes sense because it's even... *shrug*

Date: 2008-10-12 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juniorfan29.livejournal.com
Personally, I think it's a horrible name...regardless of the meaning behind it. I can't even think of any name that might work as a middle name to go with that.

Date: 2008-10-12 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sallymn.livejournal.com
Were I this boy, I would grow up to really resent the uncles who unwittingly caused me to be labelled 'raisin' and copy bad fruity jokes for my whole childhood... The parents really do need to think a it more about what they're doing to their child.

If they feel they must use it, try and talk them into making it the second name where the boy can hide it if necessary.

Date: 2008-10-13 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ifancylust.livejournal.com
yeah. i'd totally just go by ray.

Date: 2008-10-13 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velkoria.livejournal.com
I agre with what's been said about the names being one in front of the other anyway... I also would like to suggest that maybe (if none of the suggestions before pleases your sister) find names that have the same meaning as Ray and Sean? Just a thought to throw out there...

Date: 2008-10-13 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redriotroses.livejournal.com
I really think your sister ought to say something about that. You simply can't do that to a child.

Also, this is just my opinion, but naming a child after the dead is just sick, especially with how they died too. The poor kid will also know that when he asks how he gets his name. One way to feel bad about yourself. It's also like you're always going to be living for those people...

I'm going to stop with that rant.

I understand it might be important to the father, but there has to be limits...

Date: 2008-10-13 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solagirl.livejournal.com
I think Raysean should be the middle name. Or better yet, two middle names, Ray and Sean. I am not sure who would accuse them of favoring one brother other the other seeing as they are both deceased...

I think saddling a child with a name like that is a bad idea. I respect their decison, but I would gently suggest that to your sister that she reconsider.

Date: 2008-10-13 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ifancylust.livejournal.com
:( i think a lot of people would mispronounce it as ray-see-ahn or ray-see-inn. why not go with Ray Sean/Sean Ray or even Raymond Sean/Sean Raymond?

Date: 2008-10-13 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] searlait.livejournal.com
I read raisin, to be honest.

Could Sean Ray (as the mn) last name work?

Date: 2008-10-13 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeless.livejournal.com
I would suggest whoever was the eldest sibling they name the first name, and the other as the second. No favourites there

Date: 2008-10-13 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misohappi.livejournal.com
How about Sean Ray?
Were the brothers close to his heart?

Perhaps the names could be middle names?

How would the kid explain how he got his name?
Because of how his uncles DIED or how they LIVED? How they LIVED is more of a story than how they died. (in my opinion)

I named my second daughter's middle name after my mom (RIP)because she was a sweet, hard working, always-smiling, loving life spiritual person--she was one of my favorite people in the world and she was my bff. That's how I want my daughter to explain how she got her middle name.

Date: 2008-10-14 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lind-saay.livejournal.com
Maybe he'd be okay with Sean Raymond?
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