bitches.

Aug. 22nd, 2008 09:55 am
[identity profile] janeundercover.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] babynames
yes, i suppose when i post name ideas, i am looking for a little feedback.

HOWEVER.

i don't really see any reason for the total bitch comments.
i would never downright insult anyone's name ideas,
and believe me, there are some pretty HIDEOUS ones on here.

i'm sure my pointing out how bad the names are
is not going to change the fact that whoever posted them clearly likes them,
quite a lot, in fact, if they are actually considering them for a child.

just comment on the names you like
and give CONSTRUCTIVE feedback
on whether you think names will not age well
or are too popular.

any other opinions
("you're clearly a teenager because of your taste in names")
("you spelled this wrong.")
("these names are awful.") etc.
are completely useless
and are only made by people who feel better about themselves 
by being bitches to others.

thanks.

Date: 2008-08-22 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lustdumpster.livejournal.com
if you want people to take you seriously
perhaps you should write in paragraphs rather
than broken up fragments

in my opinion, those who honestly believe that people make harsh comments to "feel better about themselves" are just trying to make themselves feel better about whatever they're being made fun of for. that's like saying someone is jealous of someone they called ugly. it's ridiculous and incredibly juvenille and if your taste in names (i didn't see the post, btw) didn't hint toward you being a teenager, that comment certainly does.

telling you you spelled a name wrong is just as constructive as "this will not age well" or "this is too popular" and you're coming here asking for opinions, and if some people feel that the name is beyond the help of constructive criticism, you have to deal with that.

Date: 2008-08-22 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shellymonsta.livejournal.com
Lol. A teenager calling someone else a teenager.

"in my opinion, those who honestly believe that people make harsh comments to "feel better about themselves" are just trying to make themselves feel better about whatever they're being made fun of for. that's like saying someone is jealous of someone they called ugly. it's ridiculous and incredibly juvenille and if your taste in names (i didn't see the post, btw) didn't hint toward you being a teenager, that comment certainly does."

Actually people do. More often than not they will pick an easier target than whatever or whomever it was that bruised their ego but it is an ego thing. Someone mocked you calling your cat fluffy so then you went and called the mailman a bastard for doing something you didn't like etc. It has a follow on effect.

Insulting her wasn't exactly helpful of you either. Somewhat proves your own immaturity but well done. I hope it made your day brighter.

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Date: 2008-08-22 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovetokate.livejournal.com
Meh...it's a community where people can get opinions on names...that means the good AND the bad. I agree, no one needs to be outright rude, but sorry, some names ARE awful. I know when I ask for feedback, I want people to tell me if they think a name is really out there are bad. There might be something about it I hadn't thought about. If you're going to post in a COMMUNITY and ask for OPINIONS, don't expect people to just blow sunshine up your butt. You sort of need to put on your big girl panties and take the bad with the good.

So if
you feel
that people here have been
unfair,
then take it up with the mod
or just leave the community.
Because flounce posts
like this are
just a way to start drama.

:)

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Date: 2008-08-22 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelittlespoon.livejournal.com
I feel you! That's one reason why I never post in here. I don't want any negativity tainting my love for the name we chose.

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Date: 2008-08-22 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icebyrd67.livejournal.com
flouncy flouncy flouncy...

perhaps someone should name their child "Flounce"...i would get a great kick of out of...

Date: 2008-08-22 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brunhildevalkyr.livejournal.com
or to be more cre8tiv it could be Ecnuolf

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Date: 2008-08-22 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thejoysofjess.livejournal.com
I don't feel better about myself when I'm a bitch to others. I feel better about myself when I can help one more child coming into this world have a correctly spelled name.

Date: 2008-08-22 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arbus.livejournal.com
indeed :)

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Date: 2008-08-22 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arbus.livejournal.com
someone doesnt have enough drama in her offline life, obviously.

Date: 2008-08-22 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] th3-unicorn.livejournal.com
damn, I keep missing all the hot topics!!!
apparently that post of yours has already been deleted.

Date: 2008-08-22 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icebyrd67.livejournal.com
dang! thats why i couldnt find it. i was trying to...
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Date: 2008-08-22 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] th3-unicorn.livejournal.com
Now that I've read your previous post, I can say I'm glad you're leaving, because if you're the kind of person who believes a name can be spelled in whatever way, then clearly you're in the wrong place to begin with.

As we've all pretty much passed 6th grade.

Date: 2008-08-22 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-lacanian.livejournal.com
Here's to hoping you don't have kids for at least 10 years.

Date: 2008-08-22 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elessar.livejournal.com
You spelled this wrong is constructive criticism.

Date: 2008-08-22 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farting-nora.livejournal.com
Taking a common name and spelling it wrong does not take creativity. I will do a few here for you just to show you how stupid it looks.

Jesikka (Jessica)
Jawn (John)
Ryly (Riley)
Jaymes (James)
Morgun (Morgan)
Krysstyna (Christina)
Rayvun (Raven)
Jayn (Jane)
Izzabell (Several spellings would be correct, such as Isabel, Isabelle, and Isobel)
Elyzibeth (Elisabeth)
Brytni (Brittany)

Anybody can take 10 seconds and butcher the spelling of a perfectly legitimate name. It takes more thought and creativity to look at a long list of names and come up with the perfect first and middle name that flow well together and with your last name, don't have bad associations, and will be just as nice on the adult your child will one day become.

The parent who names their child Ayden is not more creative than the parent who names their child something less common but correctly spelled like Neil or Milo.


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Date: 2008-08-22 04:06 pm (UTC)

Ha.

Date: 2008-08-22 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morphinae.livejournal.com
Rofl. I love how you're giving out demands now. Even if it's totally against the rules of the community, and you're not the mod. I'm leaving this up, because this is a fantastic display of ass-hattery on your part.

Re: Ha.

Date: 2008-08-22 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icebyrd67.livejournal.com
i like that phrase. "a fantastic display of ass-hattery"

Re: Ha.

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Date: 2008-08-22 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princess-natty.livejournal.com
I have read both this post and the post in question... and I have yet to see why everyone is creating this mess...

Date: 2008-08-22 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-tee.livejournal.com
Let's not feed the troll people.

Date: 2008-08-22 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenglitter.livejournal.com
awww... but it is entertaining! ;)

Date: 2008-08-22 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] searlait.livejournal.com
Do you feel better now that you've had your hissy?

Date: 2008-08-22 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandtree.livejournal.com
Okay, I don't even remember seeing your post, but...

First of all, if you post your names here, you have to be prepared for people to comment on them. Some of those comments are not going to be positive. You need to be able to deal with that. If it's too much for you, you need to not post things on the internet for people to comment on.

If someone did say, "You're clearly a teenager because blah blah" then yes, that's tasteless and rude. However, I don't think that comments like "you spelled it wrong" and "these names are awful" are useless. Sometimes people don't realise that they have, in fact, spelled a name wrong, and they appreciate being told. As for 'these names are awful', generally when people post their names here, they want to know if people have a positive or a negative reaction to them.

Again, show me where in the community rules it says "You must not post negative comments about someone's list of names." It doesn't.

It baffles me that people can get SO OFFENDED because someone insults their taste in names. Honestly, I think you need to grow a backbone and stop taking the internet so seriously.

Date: 2008-08-22 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azelmaroark.livejournal.com
This post actually inspired me to comment on your original post. =P

Every community has a certain way of running things, and in the future I think it would help for you to spend a little time reading past posts and getting a feel for how things work before you make your own post. You may find that the way a particular community does things is not for you.

In this case, the way I see it, [livejournal.com profile] baby_names is a very critical but useful place. The long-time members here are brutally honest at times, as you've discovered, but I've found that, usually, they're right, or at least have a very good point worth considering. There might be other naming communities that have a policy of positive, affirming comments only, and that might be more for you, but this comm doesn't work that way. If someone tells you that you sound like a teenager, you can either try to figure out if there's a nugget of truth in what they're saying that might help you come across better -- or you can make an immature post complaining about it and calling us "bitches."

In any case, the members here are taking time out of their day to help you with your names. Some of us wrote you detailed explanations of why your names might not be the best choices, including suggestions for other names you might like. Even if you don't agree with a word of what these commenters say and find nothing useful about it, you should thank them for their time and be courteous. When you respond to an obviously well thought-out post with a flounce and a 'screw you, bitches!' attitude, it makes you look ungrateful, immature and, frankly, like the teenager you so resented being called.

I hope this helps you mesh better in future communities you may join. I also hope you'll decide to stick around here and learn more about names, but if you don't, best of luck in finding a better community for your personality.

Date: 2008-08-22 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelylittle.livejournal.com
This. Exactly.

Date: 2008-08-22 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nobodynomore.livejournal.com
If you're asking for honest feedback, someone is going to be honest about it.

Date: 2008-08-22 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selador.livejournal.com
I like
hitting enter at
really random moments
it makes me
edgy.

srsly
internet, believe me.

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Date: 2008-08-22 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 0o-faerie.livejournal.com
I didn't read every single comment on this post, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating things others have said already.

When I first came here, I also thought some people were being a little harsh. But after spending some more time in this community, I could see they were actually having a point (in most cases, not in all cases).

A child called Addysin will always have to spell her name, may always be reminded of Addison in Grey's Anatomy and might indeed be mistaken for a boy, even if it's booming for girls right now.

A child called Hyacinth Winter has a bigger chance of getting teased than a child called Leah Rose (I'm just making these names up as I'm going).

So if people tell you that spelling a name creatively (i.e. different from the original spelling) will look as if you are illiterate, or if they tell you she might get teased with that name, it's not being rude, it's telling you honestly what could be the consequences of a certain name. It doesn't mean they are being rude, or at least they don't mean it that way (generally speaking).

Besides, you can still use the names if you want! Of course, that's all up to you. All we do is give you things to think about.

Date: 2008-08-23 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wistfuljen.livejournal.com
SERIOUSLY. People will have different opinions. Honestly, relating to this comment, I think Hyacinth Winter is an AWESOME name! But I still reserve my right to think that November Rain sounds stupid because even though I love the song, I will never be able to think of anything but Slash's wide-legged guitar solo outside of the church in the video.

It doesn't mean you CAN'T USE IT. It means that you posted it in a place where people will have and share opinions about it.

Date: 2008-08-22 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tryyingtoevolve.livejournal.com
hahahahahahahahahahaha

Icon!

Date: 2008-08-22 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daydream11.livejournal.com
XD

Oh goodness, my stomach, I'm laughing so hard...

Date: 2008-08-23 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freezemyazaleas.livejournal.com
lol wut.


This is the internets, bb. People will be mean. Suck it up or gtfo.

Date: 2008-08-24 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nandy-pandy.livejournal.com
Wow, you are certainly wasting a lot of energy on a couple of names. So what if people abhor the names you like? It's not the end of the world. You ask for opinions, you get opinions.
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