[identity profile] lostrocket.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] babynames
I was catching up on old entries and was highly amused by the link to Utah Baby Names (that link goes to the post, not the site, sorry).

From there I found this little article which should probably be the manifesto of this community, or something:

The Nayme Gaimme.

Date: 2006-08-24 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahrose.livejournal.com
I don't agree with it and I don't think it should be a philosophy for this particular community.

All seriousness aside, I'm one of those that he says are coming up with the goofy names! And proud!!


Woooo! Good article, though, despite my love for unique spellings, etc.

Date: 2006-08-24 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahrose.livejournal.com
I see your point (with the pronunciation issue) but I don't think any name can be misspelled, since we don't live in a country with a name list.


I believe the earth is around 6-7 thousand years old, lol.

But yeah, good article.

Date: 2006-08-24 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-cucumber.livejournal.com
Fantastic article.

Date: 2006-08-24 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ewaeva.livejournal.com
*chuckle*

Thanks. That was fun to read. I liked the point about women whose names end with two E's.

Date: 2006-08-24 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turabiannights.livejournal.com
Just out of curiosity, so you believe that human civilization and the earth are about the same age?

To the OP, thank you for posting this! He is old and crochety like meeeee!!

Date: 2006-08-24 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahrose.livejournal.com
Yes, I do. Roughly. I base this on theology, so it might not be useful arguing it, because my opinion won't change, lol.


LOL to your comment to the OP.

Date: 2006-08-24 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] k-t-bug.livejournal.com
All excellent rules! While it's too bad more folks don't follow them, this community would be a bit quieter!

Date: 2006-08-24 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turabiannights.livejournal.com
Thanks, just curious.

I think I am just an old dog who can't learn new names. :(

Date: 2006-08-24 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahrose.livejournal.com
LOL! Funny way to put it! ;-)

Do you mind Sarah? ;-)

Date: 2006-08-24 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turabiannights.livejournal.com
How could I? It is about 6,000 years old! :D

Date: 2006-08-24 11:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-08-24 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahrose.livejournal.com
Well, it just comes down to opinion, I guess.

Date: 2006-08-25 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turabiannights.livejournal.com
Well, to a point. I know one woman on the internet who INSISTED to me that her daughter Maydson's name was pronounced "madison." But it's not - there's no way in English phonetics that that can be. It's "maidson." I think it's one thing to be okay with alternative spellings, but it's definitely something else to let misspellings like that go. What does it teach our kids? That phonics are flexible?

Date: 2006-08-25 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turabiannights.livejournal.com
I like Orrin, but it always makes me think of that wacky Orrin Hatch.

Date: 2006-08-25 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahrose.livejournal.com
To me, if someone says their name is pronounced a certain way, it is. It's *their* name. While I may not agree with it visually, that's how it is.

I don't think there is such a thing as misspelling names, either.


I'm the biggest Grammar Nazi of all, but what it comes down to is PEOPLE. You have to call them what they say their name is, agreeing or not.

Date: 2006-08-25 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turabiannights.livejournal.com
But you have to draw the line somewhere, don't you? What about the Swedish boy who was almost named Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116? His parents claimed it was pronounced "Albin"... but how could it be? Why can people spell names any way they want, but not words? What's the difference? I feel like the effectiveness of semiotic communication would simply break down at a certain point.

Date: 2006-08-25 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahrose.livejournal.com
I understand your point there, but Madyson is close enough for it to be "acceptable."

Names are different than words. They're proper nouns.


And how else would you pronounce Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116? ;-)

Date: 2006-08-25 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahrose.livejournal.com
*shrug* I don't feel differently about it since this talk started.

For me, it's part of the freedom we Americans are granted as Americans. I'm glad I have the right to name my children names I like - "made up," "misspelled," "mispronounced" or not.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krosp.livejournal.com
Hehe thanks for that entertainment. I think the best way I've tried to misspell my own name before is Klaeyre.

I also really like this webpage: http://inch.stormpages.com/index.html - the institute for naming children humanely

Date: 2006-08-25 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krosp.livejournal.com
Actually I think the example given was Maydson, not Madyson... there really is a difference there. Madyson is just another way of spelling Madison that, although trendy, is pronounced the same. Maydson is just wrong, unless you want it to be pronounced maidson. But like you said, if I met this person I would still have to call them "Madison" despite their spelling, since it is how they pronounce their name. I just think altering the spelling of names to the point where they should logically be pronounced some different way is stupid and pointless. You can still completely alter the spelling of a name in a way that keeps the original pronunciation if you do want to be creative.

Date: 2006-08-25 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poespretty.livejournal.com
I agree. if they had this kind of person, Oprah would be called "Orpha" as her mother intended (there was an error on her birth cert. or something, though I can't remember off the top of my head if it was her moms fault or the person who typed the birth cert.) either way, IMO certain spellings DO change the prn of a name, according to the widely accepted rules of phonics.
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