New name obsession.
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babynamesI keep fixating on the name Yadier these days. Maybe I've been watching too much baseball. It's Spanish, I believe, and the pronunciation is "Yad-ee-yair" or "Yad-yair" and nn can be Yadi. The closest thing I can find on any naming website is the feminine Yadira (Spanish, possibly from Arabic), so it may be a masculine version of that or a variation on Javier (my first thought). Since it's not an English name, I can't say whether it's "made-up" or not.
It's not a name I'd ever use on a child (maybe on a pet, though), but it's just intriguing me a lot. I like the sound and it's unusual to me. WDYT of Yadier?
It's not a name I'd ever use on a child (maybe on a pet, though), but it's just intriguing me a lot. I like the sound and it's unusual to me. WDYT of Yadier?
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Date: 2012-07-11 01:38 am (UTC)I like it. And I LOVE the name Javier.
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Date: 2012-07-11 04:21 am (UTC)That's kind of like saying Ahleevya is North American... I've met someone named that but that doesn't make the name any less made up.
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Date: 2012-07-11 04:46 am (UTC)that sounds more of a 'version' of Javier or Yadira and to me versions are made up, not language bound.
True, but this sounds like a more legitimate spin-off of a name (and many classic names have offshoots and spin-offs) than a lot of made-up names that I hear, like Kasen and Caven or like you said, Ahleevya (is that supposed to be Olivia? What?).
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Date: 2012-07-11 05:21 am (UTC)Listen you may like it very much but every site I've looked up has it as non existent. Thus, it is still made up... like it all you want though. And yes, that is 'supposed' to be Olivia... don't ask me though, her parents are special snowflakes.
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Date: 2012-07-11 02:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-11 03:29 am (UTC)Yadier Molina FTW.Maybe they think it isn't Spanish because they haven't met a Hispanic person named Yadier? Which is like saying that since I haven't met anyone named Eudora, Eudora isn't a name (which obviously isn't true).no subject
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Date: 2012-07-11 05:42 am (UTC)A search of Yipnielsy brings up six people with variant spellings of that name. So yes, I would agree that it is made up.
But page upon page of Yadier with Spanish last names...I just don't see how SO MANY people could have made up that name in the Hispanic community, I'm sorry.
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Date: 2012-07-11 05:48 am (UTC)Yuleisy (made up)
Yonjairo (made up)
Yuneisy (made up)
You see naming trends happen everywhere. In the US the -ayden thing became a trend and a LOT of babies got named weird things. In Latin America same thing happens... character in a soap opera got named Yadier? BOOM baby naming craze. Just like, one day, you'll see pages and pages of something like Brayden well you find Yadiers.
Hispanic communities aren't immune to naming babies crazy ass names and creating trends. But if popularity means a name is NOT made up then... we're not on the same page.
Yadier is popular, yes but that doesn't make it any less made up than any other popular ayden name.
Also, substituting letters for Y's to get that Ya Ye Yi Yo Yu sound is a VERY popular thing in latin america.
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Date: 2012-07-11 06:00 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-11 01:14 pm (UTC)I'm beginning to think this is a name possibly popular in Central and North American countries, but not South American ones (or at least not that commenter's country), just like how some names are huge in the UK but not at all in the US (like Alfie, for example).
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Date: 2012-07-11 05:28 am (UTC)Again, I am adamant because I am a Hispanic lady living in a Hispanic country.
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Date: 2012-07-11 07:08 am (UTC)I totally agree with you. That name is not Spanish in the least. -_-
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Date: 2012-07-11 02:19 pm (UTC)Name is not real but they want to think it's real so... Nod and smile... We are Hispanics but we know NOTHING! Facebook says a bunch of people have the name so it MUST be real... WE ARE WRONG!
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Date: 2012-07-12 12:35 am (UTC)We must consult the FACEBOOK Oracle!
Facebook says there are 8 Hispanic people with the first name 'Katamari'!
Sounds Hispanic!
Facebook says it is!
Welcome to the world, 'Katamari'. XD
Video-game players*facepalm*
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Date: 2012-07-11 05:48 pm (UTC)I think you both are right. Yadier may not be a traditional Hispanic name. It may be a made up name. However, there comes a point where made up names are no longer made up, and are part of the culture.
Since someone brought up Brayden, I'll use that example. Fifteen years ago, Brayden was definitely a made up name. But we've reached a point in Brayden-babies (and really, all -ayden babies) that you can't really argue it's a madeup name anymore. Brayden is a name. It's not a traditional name - it is most definitely a modern invention. But it is still a name, and the culture attached to Brayden is modern American.
It couls be the same with Yadier. It seems it isn't a traditional Hispanic name (and I definitely defer to the Hispanics here on that one). But, obviously there are a fair amount of Yadiers out there, and all the Yadiers appear to be Hispanic.
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Date: 2012-07-11 05:51 pm (UTC)Anyway, the Yadiers are Hispanic. The two Yadiers I know of are Cuban and Puerto Rican (if that makes a difference). So even if Yadier is a made up name, it does seem as though it is made up by, and used exclusively by, parts of the Hispanic population.
That doesn't make it a traditional Hispanic name, but a modern Hispanic name. The same way Brayden is not a traditional American name, but a modern one.
If any of this made sense at all :)
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Date: 2012-07-11 11:43 pm (UTC)Also, some people change their names slightly when they move to another country to make it easier for the people around them to say it; or name their kids to suit the new country's language or whatever. That still doesn't make it a name of their own culture UNLESS it's actually just a modified version of a name used commonly in their own culture..
Just because someone who gives their kid a creative name happens to be of a certain culture you really can't start equating that name with that culture.
Just because Juno (in the movie of the same name) was named after the Roman goddess didn't make her Roman, nor did it make her name a 'new American name'.
Sometimes names really are just names. ^_^.
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Date: 2012-07-13 12:59 am (UTC)Though I'm still not convinced that's necessarily the case with Yadier, given that you say its not AND the only definition I've been able to find is Hebrew - and the website which made that claim didn't seem exactly well-researched. (Though it might be interesting to see if any Yadiers come from the Jewish settlements in Argentina.)
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Date: 2012-07-11 02:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-11 02:58 am (UTC)It also reminds me of a really lazy person slurring "you're outta here".
I feel neutral about it.
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