[identity profile] charmedroses.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] babynames
So I've currently got baby boy number 4 in my belly and we are having the HARDEST time EVER agreeing on a name for him.  I've literally named every name under the sun, some I don't even really like, and he's vetoed them ALL.  *shakes fist in air*  My favorite choice is Ryker  LOVE it.  He HATES it.  He suggested Maximus briefly, and I was willing to compromise (would have preferred Maxwell or just Max) but then he vetoed HIMSELF.  Now he's bound and determined that he absolutely wants the name Lucian.

I don't know how I feel about Lucian.  I don't HATE it...but it doesn't roll out of my mouth very easily when I try to say it.  Also, totally no clue on a middle name.  This whole naming process is making me slightly miserable this round.

Thoughts?  Opinions?  On both the name Lucian and suggestions on possible middle names.

Side note one:  My 4 year old sons name is Kayson and it is by far my favorite boy name I've come across.

Side note two:  If we'd had a girl her name would have been Sylvana Rose (were never definite on spelling).  Most people seemed to hate it, but we were completely unphased by their hate :P

Side note three:  I love old fashioned girl names.  My #1 girl choice that he super-vetoed was Eleanor. 

Ok I'm done now.

Date: 2012-02-18 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitchen-poet.livejournal.com
Personally, I hate Ryker. It just reminds me of the prison.

I like Lucian ok. Maybe Lucian Max? Or Lucian Ryker? Maybe a compromise for both could be Lucian Rex? (Or maybe Rye?)

Would you call Luc/Luke, or Lucian?

The only person I know with a Ryker IRL is named Rykers Prezley/Presley.

Date: 2012-02-18 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smittenlotus.livejournal.com
Congratulations, first of all!

I like the name Lucian myself. Perhaps you could combine two of your favorites, Lucian Ryker? Maxwell Lucian? Lucian Maxwell? Most of them sound like good combinations.

Good luck!

Date: 2012-02-18 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelasttruth.livejournal.com
Kayson and Lucien sound super super close to me so I'd personally avoid the name just on that front. I think Sylvana Rose is so pretty though, and I've never heard of a Sylvana before. I definitely agree with you on Eleanor - so pretty!

Date: 2012-02-18 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloojanuary.livejournal.com
Lately I've been liking Paxton and Preston.

Date: 2012-02-18 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] being-lola-star.livejournal.com
I can't decided if we have similar tastes or not. I'm not a huge fan of Ryker, Kayson or Sylvana (would prefer Sylvia) but I ADORE Eleanor/Ella and I love Max in whatever form because I would automatically shorten it to Maxxie or Max.

Personally I really like the name Lucian but I think that's only because I've been obsessing over Norman Reedus so much lately and his son's name is Mingus Lucien. I've always sort of drifted to more unusual names like that though. I have a vague recollection of liking it in high school as well for different reasons.

Ryker Lucian actually sounds pretty decent to me and if you're having trouble saying Lucian you would only have to do it when he was in trouble :P Or you could try some sort of variation with Luke/Lucas/Luca.

Date: 2012-02-18 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] being-lola-star.livejournal.com
I've actually been told I have really odd taste in names so it's nice to find someone who's cool about the weirder ones. My favourite girls' names are Innogen Kyle [specifically Innogen NOT Imogen] or Eloise (which I've been told I'm not allowed to shorten to Oise [pro: Weeze] because it would be cruel.) Favourite combination of boys names is Britain Atticus Maverick Foster because it just sounds amazing and the initials would make me laugh but I also like Bodhi and Levi.

I know a little boy name Maxim and he is in fact French. Maximus is sort of a badass name actually.

It might be unlikely in this day in age but I know several families that just kept going until they got their child of the other gender or even that just have five or six children.

I'm curious what your other boys called?

Date: 2012-02-18 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] being-lola-star.livejournal.com
Zienna is super pretty! Maximus Atticus is a really awesome name. You need to fight harder because clearly the hubby doesn't know a good thing when he hears it haha. :P He needs to not be so pick or else this baby is going to end up Baby X. :)

Date: 2012-02-19 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladydreamfire.livejournal.com
I've already have 4 children, sadly we lost one, but we have 3 at home. I want at least one more, but I'm seriously hoping I get twin girls or a girl/boy twin set. As long as there's one girl!

Date: 2012-02-19 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladydreamfire.livejournal.com
You know, I've been told repeatedly that we get twins in our family but I have not seen evidence of it once. I always just hope for it because it's two babies, one pregnancy. I get awfully sick during my pregnancies for the duration, so twins would be ideal. More babies, less vomiting!

Also apparently PH Balance has something to do with what gender your baby will be. I've read for girls the mother should have a more acidic PH balance to kill off the weaker (but faster) boy sperm. When you ovulate also plays a role. You need to have sex like 3-4 days before your egg drops to give the boy sperm a chance to die off, but the girl sperm would endure. I've read other tips and ideas, that go from dieting and special recipe douching to attain the correct PH balance, and about sexual positions that will land the sperm in the proper place. Closer to the entrance is more acidic and therefore more likely to produce a girl. But these things are if you're desperate for one gender over the other. I have pages bookmark because they sum it up succinctly and refer to two different ebooks. One for dieting for Ph balance and one for douching for Ph balance.

I want a girl and all (I mean I have that name I just HAVE to use...silly reason but what can you do), but I have 2 girls so I wouldn't die if I got a boy. I'd love my baby so much I wouldn't care which gender came out so long at he or she was healthy! I'm just used to girls and they're so much more fun to buy clothes for.

Date: 2012-02-18 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladydreamfire.livejournal.com
Congratulations on your baby boy in utero!! <3

I personally love Lucian. I think it's great. But you don't seem to love it, and that worries me. I want everyone to find a name that they fall in love with. I'm not trying to talk you into or out of any choice, but this community will absolutely help you come up with alternatives if you would like.

Ryker isn't my style but I think that if he's willing to be fair and let you choose the middle name since he's shanghai-ing the first name that Ryker would be an awesome choice. Lucian Ryker lastname. I know he hates Ryker, but come on, fair is fair! Or even as a second middle name!

But in the spirit of the community some other choices (for now):

Lucian Marshall
Lucian Gregor
Lucian Michael
Lucian Andrew
Lucian Cromwell
Lucian Giorgio
Lucian Aster
Lucian Mortimer
Lucian Forrester (I love Forrester so much, had to throw it in)
Lucian Edward
Lucian Tyrone
Lucian Alistair
Lucian Salazaar (I know it's all Harry Potter geeky but I really like the flow of it)
Lucian Baxter

Date: 2012-02-19 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladydreamfire.livejournal.com
I wouldn't use most of the suggestions I came up with. I just wrote whatever came to mind, no matter how off the wall. They usually remind you of other names that way by means of association. I am glad you liked one or two. =) (I secretly liked Cromwell, and it must be the part of me that LOVES King Arthur and old Britain)

I've never seen Game of Thrones. But can I veto Targaryen? Please? PLEASE? I usually would NEVER tell you not to use something, but in this case I'll sit here and give you 100 more options if you just talk him out of that name lol. It's just one of those names that will be impossible to spell as a child.

It's one thing if you have a crazy last name. I knew a girl who had Zacharewski (that's how it's pronounced, it's spelling is slightly crazier and longer) and she had to learn her last name in hieroglyphics. 7th grade World Culture. That poor girl. My maiden name is 7 letters but 3 of those are A's so I had a MUCH easier time of it.

Date: 2012-02-19 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladydreamfire.livejournal.com
I agree, the naming compatibility will topple relationships if you let it. I think the hardest time we had together was our first child together (I had my eldest when I wasjust shy of 20) when we had to go through all the names we would never use because of who they reminded us of. Then everybody weighing in on what names they were using, equating to what names we couldn't use, and then finding names that we both loved.

I think he cared more in the beginning too, but I care so much more than I beat him down with debating names and now he would rather avoid one more debate on names by just nodding consent. It wasn't me nagging him, it was me being all geek love for names. This backfires on me sometimes as if I want actual input I have to look elsewhere. Luckily this community exists, because I won't confide any of my names to a person I know in real life. EVER AGAIN. :)

Date: 2012-02-18 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starcrossed.livejournal.com
Lucian sort of reminds me of Lucifer.

Names that could work standalone or with Lucian as a middle name:
Alexander
Foster
Sylvester
Oliver
Morris
Pierce
Henry
Max
James
Jack
William

Date: 2012-02-18 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] how-obscure.livejournal.com
How are you pronouncing Lucian? I've heard it a number of different ways. I like loo-see-en or loo-shen. The name used to be on my list actually. I thought that, if I ever used it, I would use the loo-see-en pronunciation and call him Lucy for short because I dig girly nns on boys for some reason. Heh.

Lucian James
Lucian Robert
Lucian Tate
Lucian Isaac
Lucian Paul
Lucian Dominic
Lucian Dexter
Lucian Hugh
Lucian Xavier
Lucian Viktor
Lucian Matthew

Date: 2012-02-18 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adamantplatypus.livejournal.com
I love the name Lucian. It's my boy name for if a boy ever comes up on me.

I dislike loo-shin, dislike loo-chee-in and prefer loo-see-in. Luc for short, natch.

Date: 2012-02-18 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvermidnight.livejournal.com
I associate Lucien with the devil, not sure why but I think it has more to it than just being spelled like Lucifer. So I don't like it at all.

Sylvana is pretty!

Date: 2012-02-19 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clutterbang.livejournal.com
I'm not going to analyze your relationship dynamics, but him saying no to every single one of your names and giving you ONE option to choose from is acting like a huge asshole.

Date: 2012-02-19 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladydreamfire.livejournal.com
I did not have the guts to say that outright, but hear hear! It's funny how you feel offended *for* somebody.

My husband has veto rights, but he's way more flexible than that! I absolutely destroyed our list except for the top choice in either gender and came up with new ones that I felt fit better and were all ours. And he didn't give me any crap about it. I can pick any one of those names and it's cool. I love that feeling. I think I would've threatened to divorce your husband. I can be melodramatic though, I freely admit! It's the right of pregnancy hormones.

I sort of hope you announce you named the baby Lucian Ryker! Just because you love Ryker! Or Maximus Ryker. Make sure your favorite gets in there lady! <3

Date: 2012-02-19 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladydreamfire.livejournal.com
Heh, we did split up during our first pregnancy together due to problems immigrating, and his overall problems dealing with an extended long distance marriage because of that. That pregnancy was the worst sickness wise so I was too sick to give a real damn that he wasn't there. Aside from not him to rub whatever aches, and get whatever craving I was having.

We reconciled to a small extent right before her birth (with a full reconciliation right after), but I did end up getting to choose her name by myself. I gave her his last name in the hopes that we wouldn't divorce. :) Now he's immigrated and we've had 2 more children since then, and still want more so it all worked out. <3
The longer we're married the better it gets. :)

But I swear, having sole naming rights was pretty awesome.

Date: 2012-02-19 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladydreamfire.livejournal.com
Exactly the same. I'm American and he's Canadian. We had a lawyer and everything, and I don't know why we bothered. His paralegal was totally inept. She was from Ukraine, and her English was really broken but that wasn't the problem, we could usually make sense of the emails, but she kept losing paperwork and the passport photos we were required to submit individually. Like 3 times! The lawyer himself would sit on our case. Say step 2 was completed in October. He wouldn't get back to us until mid November. It was really dragged out. Actually I don't know how it would've turned out, but because of Remy's death he was able to cross the border for the funeral(he was red flagged for not going back when he told border guards he would be. Dumbass move, but you couldn't tell him otherwise.)and because of the hardship a friend of a friend got us in contact with a guy from immigration/homeland security that was able to file a different form and got his permanent residency pushed through. But we were separated for over 2 years with only one visit in between. He only saw Remy through photos and hearing him cry over the phone. He left while I was pregnant with Ava (our first child together) and I didn't get to visit until Ava was I dunno 15 months? That sucked. So yeah, immigration was a total bitch. And it ultimately took my son dying for it to possible. You have no idea how much I hate that fact and how angry I get with immigration. I can understand them wanting to put a stop to people marrying for a green card and then divorcing. But come on, we have children together. We're all the phone constantly throughout the day every day. At that point I think a paternity test for our daughter would've sufficed, and then okay you can go be with your family now. Ugh. Sore spot.

Greg (my husband) always said it would be easier to move to Canada, but I was reluctant to move away from my family. Now that I don't care so much anymore, he doesn't want to move back! In fact he wants to go like southwest where it's warm but not humid. Actually Florida would've been great if it weren't for the humidity and the hurricanes. One of my bestest lovey friends lives there and I would LOVE to live there with her but I'm terrified of getting caught in another Katrina. Especially with children. :( He goes back to trade school in a couple of weeks and finishing will only take a year, then he can get a great paying job. So I'm not worried about having another baby. I think at this point the longer we push it off the crankier I get, despite understand the logic behind the waiting. I'm just you know ready to have another baby!

Date: 2012-02-20 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladydreamfire.livejournal.com
Um....I don't think it's rule breaking, but feel free to add me and message me.

If he's making a lot of money, you can put it in a bank account in YOUR name. Once you get to such a such you can provide that account as proof that you can support the family. I know that's how it worked in other countries. Or yes, you can get a joint sponsor if you have someone. We had to have somebody from the church sponsor us, and that was after assuring that person they wouldn't actually have to pay anything.

My husband is going for the machine tech course. Likewise he can do very well in a particular area of it.

You know what? Just add me, it's going to be easier to pile it into messages haha.

Date: 2012-02-19 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormqueen280.livejournal.com
LOL, I thought that too. If you're going to veto the other person's entire list, at least come up with more than one alternative, right?

That said, I have to agree with him on Ryker. Reminds me of the prison, and I'm not even American.
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Date: 2012-02-19 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixie-bones.livejournal.com
Congrats! :)

I hate Ryker. To me, the sound is...sharp? And it brings to mind Rikers Island.
I really don't like Lucian. I dislike the sound...and it reminds me of Lucifer. I once worked with a weird guy named Lucian and accidentally called him Lucifer, lol! Not to his face, though; thank goodness. ^^

Sylvana Rose isn't my style, but I think it's kind of nice. :)
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