Baby naming
Feb. 17th, 2012 11:47 pmSo I've currently got baby boy number 4 in my belly and we are having the HARDEST time EVER agreeing on a name for him. I've literally named every name under the sun, some I don't even really like, and he's vetoed them ALL. *shakes fist in air* My favorite choice is Ryker LOVE it. He HATES it. He suggested Maximus briefly, and I was willing to compromise (would have preferred Maxwell or just Max) but then he vetoed HIMSELF. Now he's bound and determined that he absolutely wants the name Lucian.
I don't know how I feel about Lucian. I don't HATE it...but it doesn't roll out of my mouth very easily when I try to say it. Also, totally no clue on a middle name. This whole naming process is making me slightly miserable this round.
Thoughts? Opinions? On both the name Lucian and suggestions on possible middle names.
Side note one: My 4 year old sons name is Kayson and it is by far my favorite boy name I've come across.
Side note two: If we'd had a girl her name would have been Sylvana Rose (were never definite on spelling). Most people seemed to hate it, but we were completely unphased by their hate :P
Side note three: I love old fashioned girl names. My #1 girl choice that he super-vetoed was Eleanor.
Ok I'm done now.
I don't know how I feel about Lucian. I don't HATE it...but it doesn't roll out of my mouth very easily when I try to say it. Also, totally no clue on a middle name. This whole naming process is making me slightly miserable this round.
Thoughts? Opinions? On both the name Lucian and suggestions on possible middle names.
Side note one: My 4 year old sons name is Kayson and it is by far my favorite boy name I've come across.
Side note two: If we'd had a girl her name would have been Sylvana Rose (were never definite on spelling). Most people seemed to hate it, but we were completely unphased by their hate :P
Side note three: I love old fashioned girl names. My #1 girl choice that he super-vetoed was Eleanor.
Ok I'm done now.
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Date: 2012-02-18 06:07 am (UTC)I like Lucian ok. Maybe Lucian Max? Or Lucian Ryker? Maybe a compromise for both could be Lucian Rex? (Or maybe Rye?)
Would you call Luc/Luke, or Lucian?
The only person I know with a Ryker IRL is named Rykers Prezley/Presley.
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Date: 2012-02-18 02:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-18 06:08 am (UTC)I like the name Lucian myself. Perhaps you could combine two of your favorites, Lucian Ryker? Maxwell Lucian? Lucian Maxwell? Most of them sound like good combinations.
Good luck!
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Date: 2012-02-18 03:03 pm (UTC)And I don't really dislike Lucian. I actually suggested it even with my first child. I think it's just my problems sounding it out lately? I'm not sure. My 4 year old says it though and it sounds like the most adorable name EVER when he says it. Maybe if I recorded myself saying it I'd realize it's not silly sounding like I feel it is? lol
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Date: 2012-02-18 07:08 am (UTC)Personally I really like the name Lucian but I think that's only because I've been obsessing over Norman Reedus so much lately and his son's name is Mingus Lucien. I've always sort of drifted to more unusual names like that though. I have a vague recollection of liking it in high school as well for different reasons.
Ryker Lucian actually sounds pretty decent to me and if you're having trouble saying Lucian you would only have to do it when he was in trouble :P Or you could try some sort of variation with Luke/Lucas/Luca.
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Date: 2012-02-18 03:20 pm (UTC)I secretly harbor the crazy hope (since I'm on my 4th child here afterall!) that I'll get pregnant with twin girls and I can get the name Eleanor in for one. Isabella was actually both of our number 1 girl name FOREVER, but Twilight made it too popular. There's literally 4 Isabella names in my sons kindergarten class. :/
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Date: 2012-02-18 06:14 pm (UTC)I know a little boy name Maxim and he is in fact French. Maximus is sort of a badass name actually.
It might be unlikely in this day in age but I know several families that just kept going until they got their child of the other gender or even that just have five or six children.
I'm curious what your other boys called?
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Date: 2012-02-18 06:59 pm (UTC)I also love love love the name Atticus! I tried to get that one picked but the hubs didn't want it either. I even suggested it as a middle name for Maximus since he wanted a similar sounding middle name with it, but then he changed his mind on the whole works anyway.
I like Bodhi too. I just saw someone suggest the name Boden on a forum the other day and thought it sounded pretty cool. And I've suggested Levi as one of my top names for all 4 but it's always shot down.
My first two boys are actually from a previous marriage and have fairly traditional names becuz they got named after family members/the father. The oldest is Joseph James (his dad's name was Joseph and James was for Joe's brother that died a month before Joey was born). The next oldest is Kayson Joseph (Kayson we heard on Dog the bounty Hunter actually! and then we definitely wanted him to have part of his dad's name as well, hence the middle name). 7 weeks after Kayson was born, my husband died, so I've always been glad that we decided to name them both after him. I know we were toying with the idea of naming Joey "Lazarith" for awhile. Our girl name was "Zienna Rose", but we had boys so...yea.
My third boy with my new husband is Ethan Cain. Chris really wanted Cain to be part of the name cuz he thought it sounded badass. I wasn't so sure for a first name but thought it made a good middle name. Ethan, like I said, was like the 500th name I suggested and he FINALLY agreed on. Even though Ethan is super common now, I still think Ethan Cain sounds cool. Like he's a detective or main character in a thriller or horror book. :P
I also saw the name Cassio in a book recently and am slightly intrigued by it.
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Date: 2012-02-18 08:47 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-02-19 02:32 am (UTC)Twins are super common in our family once the women hit 29, which is what I'm turning in March. So if we tried again, we'd almost for sure have twins. I'd be shocked if we didn't. It's usually fraternals too, though the occasional identical have shown up. I figure with my streak I'd end up with twin boys, fraternal or not :P What a naming nightmare that could be! ahhhhh!
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Date: 2012-02-19 10:22 am (UTC)Also apparently PH Balance has something to do with what gender your baby will be. I've read for girls the mother should have a more acidic PH balance to kill off the weaker (but faster) boy sperm. When you ovulate also plays a role. You need to have sex like 3-4 days before your egg drops to give the boy sperm a chance to die off, but the girl sperm would endure. I've read other tips and ideas, that go from dieting and special recipe douching to attain the correct PH balance, and about sexual positions that will land the sperm in the proper place. Closer to the entrance is more acidic and therefore more likely to produce a girl. But these things are if you're desperate for one gender over the other. I have pages bookmark because they sum it up succinctly and refer to two different ebooks. One for dieting for Ph balance and one for douching for Ph balance.
I want a girl and all (I mean I have that name I just HAVE to use...silly reason but what can you do), but I have 2 girls so I wouldn't die if I got a boy. I'd love my baby so much I wouldn't care which gender came out so long at he or she was healthy! I'm just used to girls and they're so much more fun to buy clothes for.
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Date: 2012-02-19 07:00 pm (UTC)Also, I've had the most amazing girly Dr. Suess onsies for YEARS now in case I get a girl...I refuse to give them to anyone else cuz I really really want them for my own daughter. I is greedy like that. That and my love for our girl names are one of the things that drives me to want a girl, so I share your silly reasons to have a girl moments. :D
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Date: 2012-02-18 07:35 am (UTC)I personally love Lucian. I think it's great. But you don't seem to love it, and that worries me. I want everyone to find a name that they fall in love with. I'm not trying to talk you into or out of any choice, but this community will absolutely help you come up with alternatives if you would like.
Ryker isn't my style but I think that if he's willing to be fair and let you choose the middle name since he's shanghai-ing the first name that Ryker would be an awesome choice. Lucian Ryker lastname. I know he hates Ryker, but come on, fair is fair! Or even as a second middle name!
But in the spirit of the community some other choices (for now):
Lucian Marshall
Lucian Gregor
Lucian Michael
Lucian Andrew
Lucian Cromwell
Lucian Giorgio
Lucian Aster
Lucian Mortimer
Lucian Forrester (I love Forrester so much, had to throw it in)
Lucian Edward
Lucian Tyrone
Lucian Alistair
Lucian Salazaar (I know it's all Harry Potter geeky but I really like the flow of it)
Lucian Baxter
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Date: 2012-02-18 03:34 pm (UTC)I for some reason actually kind of like Lucian Alistair. I kind of don't mind Lucian Mortimer either. And Lucian Salazaar is a totally legit suggestion considering the only middle name he's completely sold on and wanting it Targaryen, like the Dragon family from Game of Thrones? Yea, that one. Lucian Targaryen. He's completely over the moon for that name. However, half the time he forgets how to say and spell it! lol
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Date: 2012-02-19 02:29 am (UTC)I've never seen Game of Thrones. But can I veto Targaryen? Please? PLEASE? I usually would NEVER tell you not to use something, but in this case I'll sit here and give you 100 more options if you just talk him out of that name lol. It's just one of those names that will be impossible to spell as a child.
It's one thing if you have a crazy last name. I knew a girl who had Zacharewski (that's how it's pronounced, it's spelling is slightly crazier and longer) and she had to learn her last name in hieroglyphics. 7th grade World Culture. That poor girl. My maiden name is 7 letters but 3 of those are A's so I had a MUCH easier time of it.
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Date: 2012-02-19 05:30 am (UTC)I never expected him to be so ridiculous with naming a child. I feel like I should have taken this into consideration before we got pregnant. Like every girl should stop and question involvment with a guy "wait, will him and I have compatibility in the baby naming department?". I bet eHarmony has it even on their questionaires. It would make absolute sense to me at this point.
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Date: 2012-02-19 10:34 am (UTC)I think he cared more in the beginning too, but I care so much more than I beat him down with debating names and now he would rather avoid one more debate on names by just nodding consent. It wasn't me nagging him, it was me being all geek love for names. This backfires on me sometimes as if I want actual input I have to look elsewhere. Luckily this community exists, because I won't confide any of my names to a person I know in real life. EVER AGAIN. :)
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Date: 2012-02-18 10:23 am (UTC)Names that could work standalone or with Lucian as a middle name:
Alexander
Foster
Sylvester
Oliver
Morris
Pierce
Henry
Max
James
Jack
William
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Date: 2012-02-18 03:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-18 03:32 pm (UTC)Lucian James
Lucian Robert
Lucian Tate
Lucian Isaac
Lucian Paul
Lucian Dominic
Lucian Dexter
Lucian Hugh
Lucian Xavier
Lucian Viktor
Lucian Matthew
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Date: 2012-02-18 03:48 pm (UTC)Lucian Xavier I like a lot. I actually was sold on the name Lucian if it could be Lucian Alexavier...but the hubs has issues with it. I'm kind of debating bringing up the "I get dibs on the middle name because you did with the 3rd boy!" line tonight. We'll see what happens!
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Date: 2012-02-18 09:15 pm (UTC)I dislike loo-shin, dislike loo-chee-in and prefer loo-see-in. Luc for short, natch.
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Date: 2012-02-18 09:57 pm (UTC)Sylvana is pretty!
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Date: 2012-02-19 02:36 am (UTC)My husband has veto rights, but he's way more flexible than that! I absolutely destroyed our list except for the top choice in either gender and came up with new ones that I felt fit better and were all ours. And he didn't give me any crap about it. I can pick any one of those names and it's cool. I love that feeling. I think I would've threatened to divorce your husband. I can be melodramatic though, I freely admit! It's the right of pregnancy hormones.
I sort of hope you announce you named the baby Lucian Ryker! Just because you love Ryker! Or Maximus Ryker. Make sure your favorite gets in there lady! <3
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Date: 2012-02-19 05:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-19 10:47 am (UTC)We reconciled to a small extent right before her birth (with a full reconciliation right after), but I did end up getting to choose her name by myself. I gave her his last name in the hopes that we wouldn't divorce. :) Now he's immigrated and we've had 2 more children since then, and still want more so it all worked out. <3
The longer we're married the better it gets. :)
But I swear, having sole naming rights was pretty awesome.
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Date: 2012-02-19 03:50 pm (UTC)Where to and where from did all the immigration happen? We're an immigration couple too! He's actually Canadian and I'm American. We tried the me and the oldest two going Canadian and it was DISASTROUS, though I can't tell if we just had a super unique case, the country sucks, or we sabotaged ourselves somehow. Seriously no clue. Now we've given up on Canada and we're trying to get him to the States instead. Immigration has been a rough one for us. We've been trying at it for YEARS now...it's exhausting and taken a toll on our relationship for sure! But we've made it through the very thick and thin, and same as you, the longer we go the better it gets. Up and down still, but compared to the beginning..yeaaaaa. It was close a couple times where we almost split while I was preggo with Ethan.
If we had twins, I would soooooooooooo be kosher with him having sole naming rights to one, and me to the other...no vetoes. I HATE VETOES. It'd be so much more fun! gah! But it also seems like a silly reason to be going for more children to :P I looked into tube tying recently and was sooooooo traumatized by the info that I just...i don't think I can do it! I told him though that if we go for more though, we all have to be legit in the SAME country and with two working vehicles that can carry all of us and be financially sound, cuz our grocery bill is already through the roof as it is!
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Date: 2012-02-19 04:40 pm (UTC)Greg (my husband) always said it would be easier to move to Canada, but I was reluctant to move away from my family. Now that I don't care so much anymore, he doesn't want to move back! In fact he wants to go like southwest where it's warm but not humid. Actually Florida would've been great if it weren't for the humidity and the hurricanes. One of my bestest lovey friends lives there and I would LOVE to live there with her but I'm terrified of getting caught in another Katrina. Especially with children. :( He goes back to trade school in a couple of weeks and finishing will only take a year, then he can get a great paying job. So I'm not worried about having another baby. I think at this point the longer we push it off the crankier I get, despite understand the logic behind the waiting. I'm just you know ready to have another baby!
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Date: 2012-02-19 06:50 pm (UTC)We finally made the decision to move to the States instead and I got talking to a lawyer around here and she sent paperwork and stuff, but the big hold up is we got married in Canada in August...and we STILL don't have our offiial marriage license, so we can't file a THING. Another bombshell she just dropped on us, I have to be making enough income on my own to support a family of 5 (soon to be 6 obviously) and I was a stay at home mom until recently picking up a part time job that makes no where near enough to qualify me. We need a joint-sponsor but no one I know makes enough either really, so...we're kind of at a loss there. Chris is the bread winner in the fam, but his income doesn't count. So now we're meeting with the lawyer to see about the idea of a work visa maybe? ugh...I don't know. I'm feeling a bit defeated after all these years on both sides of the border. :(
I had Ethan in Canada, and we applied for his citizenship, passport and SSN in July in Alberta....we've got NOTHING yet. And you can't get ahold of anyone in Canada on the phone, and their emails are like, automatic emails...I think in one of my response emails I said something snippy like "way to be useless" and they sent me the exact same response email for like the 6th time, so I really don't think an actual person looks at them. I talked to immigration on this side and they say they have no record of us ever applying for his stuff either. I have the reciept and everything and still nothing. I'm beyond frustrated. I had to be seperated from him from August to December because we finally gave up on the American passport and just applied for a Canadian one. Chris and him came over in December and we've decided Ethan is staying with me while Chris heads back to Canada next Monday. :( I'm reaaaaaaaaaaaally hoping he's able to come back in time for the baby's birth, but we're not really sure at all if he will or not. I'm a little freaked by this, but at least the baby will be born here. Ethan's uninsured though and technically I believe not allowed to be here, so we might be pushing it having him stay here. I really don't know. We're probably pushing all sorts of boundaries here. blah. I'm hoping the lawyer has some answers for us both in regards to getting Chris here and to figuring out what the crap happened to Ethan's status/citizenship. All I know is he's Canadian, and apparently even though I'm American, he has no American rights.
Crapsville yo.
What trade is ur man in? Mines working on his welding apprenticeship at the moment...which is a super needed and well paying job around here, so we'll be doing good once he's offiially here I think.
Also, are we breaking any rules talking randomly this much in baby naming? lol *blushes with guilt for tl;dr-ing*
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Date: 2012-02-20 12:47 am (UTC)If he's making a lot of money, you can put it in a bank account in YOUR name. Once you get to such a such you can provide that account as proof that you can support the family. I know that's how it worked in other countries. Or yes, you can get a joint sponsor if you have someone. We had to have somebody from the church sponsor us, and that was after assuring that person they wouldn't actually have to pay anything.
My husband is going for the machine tech course. Likewise he can do very well in a particular area of it.
You know what? Just add me, it's going to be easier to pile it into messages haha.
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Date: 2012-02-19 04:49 am (UTC)That said, I have to agree with him on Ryker. Reminds me of the prison, and I'm not even American.
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Date: 2012-02-19 05:16 am (UTC)Him: "How about Maximus?"
Him a minute later: "no no no. Not Maximus!"
What IS that?
Not to rip on my husband. I do love the guy...but baby naming is by far the most frustrating thing I've ever had to work together with him on.
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Date: 2012-02-19 01:36 am (UTC)What are your other two names? For curiosity's sake...not for ideas. :P We're pretty much on Lucian or, if I can swing him back to the idea, Maximus.
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Date: 2012-02-19 02:21 am (UTC)Sawyer is very cute too :)
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Date: 2012-02-19 03:33 am (UTC)I hate Ryker. To me, the sound is...sharp? And it brings to mind Rikers Island.
I really don't like Lucian. I dislike the sound...and it reminds me of Lucifer. I once worked with a weird guy named Lucian and accidentally called him Lucifer, lol! Not to his face, though; thank goodness. ^^
Sylvana Rose isn't my style, but I think it's kind of nice. :)