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[ivegotbaggage.livejournal.com]

Remember when I was late to the party on the whole Adolf Hitler cake thing? Check this video out! I want more details!!!

For those of you who don't care to watch it, basically what went down is that the children were removed from the home and the parents were supposed to go to a hearing that was postponed. It doesn't say why they were removed, and I don't know if it has anything to do with their names, at all. I can't imagine it would. But now I'm curious!!!

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[mykissmightkill.livejournal.com]

hah! i heard about it too on the radio. I found out about the kids names cuz my little cousin was on the front page of some newpapery kind of thing for being at this like block party in her area that was for christmas and right above her pic was the story about the kid in big letters how he was named after hitler. I just heard this morning and im dying to know why they were taken XD :P

[chirpygirly.livejournal.com]

I have first hand experience and insider knowledge. Social services are so corrupt they are beyond repair! They need a complete overhaul. They get money for taking kids, not letting parents keep them! The idea of abuse has turned into too wide a scope and it's used to the personal opinion of people looking in, with no real inside knowledge, people who usually have no kids, and they have no real idea nor care for the emotional trauma on children and parents from the separation and the abuse that happens more in foster care then with bio parents. I am betting it is because of the names, after all, that's what got them in the headlines, and thus so viewable to the ones who prey on families. I read some of the things the father said as well and knowing social services the way I do, I bet they used not just the names, but the attitude of the father to conjure up their idea of abuse. I know some people think giving a child a bad name is abuse, but honestly to say a name can ruin a person's life is absurd. Read up on the countless of real life experiences of people who've gone through a horrendous upbringing and turned out good. Some of the most influential people in this world came from adversity, it's what teaches us what real life is all about, makes us more appreciative, and more caring for others. People today are too obsessed with perfection, and wanting to have it all and they think if they only have the perfect life with everything and never ever a problem, they'll be perfectly happy. It doesn't work that way, otherwise those who are born into wealth, and grow up with no problems, including abuse, wouldn't be some of the most unhappy people out there. Happiness comes from within, that's why the poorest people with the hardest lives can still have happiness!

[lovablemess.livejournal.com]

Do you think social services is corrupt everywhere? Or just in New Jersey, where this case happened?

Also, I do agree that through adversity, people become strong and learn how to overcome. But are you condoning any kind of abuse because the child might grow up to be stronger than they would had they not been abused? Also, my father grew up with a very uncommon and easily mocked name...he has NOT had it easy. Being named what he was isn't "abuse" but it definitely affected his life. "Ruin" is a strong word but it definitely had a huge impact.

[chirpygirly.livejournal.com]

Sadly, I don't just *think* it is corrupt, I *know* it's corrupt, all over, in both the U.S. and Canada, though the U.S. is by far worse.
I had no idea before my ordeal. I thought they were good, I thought only really bad, abusive people lost their kids and that every letter of the law was followed, so that all parties were protected from abuse of their rights. I learned different first hand and then through workers of agencies involved in my case, and through others.

I dealt directly with an ex cps worker who had quit because of the corruption. He had joined to help families, with the intent to keep them together, when he learned the opposite was the norm, he quit and joined a different organization that actually truly helps families.

I also have a relative who has a friend who's mother is a social worker and she admitted that it's corrupt, like it was no big deal.

Georgia Governor Nancy Schaeffer had families bring it to her attention and she said she wants to help. There's also all kinds of activists trying to bring it more out into the open, but it's hard, such is the case with corruption like this where people are making millions, and tax payers are losing billions to what is essentially government sanctioned child trafficking. There's videos on-line about it, and here's some links.

http://familyrights.us/protecting_children/articles/above_law.html

familyrightsassociation.com

fightcps.com


Of course I must note that I condone no abuse of any kind, and am myself a survivor, and think tougher penalties need to be implemented to deter people from being so abusive.
As for names, I know some people truly feel it's abusive to give certain names. I feel it's mostly just disrespectful when an unusual name is given without mal-intent, and without knowledge or problems that may arise. However, if a parent deliberately gives a name that obviously has a very high possibility of bringing on difficulty for their child, such as teasing, and it's proven true, and they do not change the child's name, that to me is when it is abuse.

Also, my name is Jennifer. Perfectly normal by most people's standards. One wouldn't think it would bring any problems. Well growing up, going through school with such a popular name is quite frustrating. Also a relative only a few months younger than me, whom I grew up with, had trouble saying my name when he was young. It came out to something else, that got picked up as a nick name for me. It was not pleasant, but a new nick name came from it because of something else, and it was much worse. My point is, any name can bring about teasing, just like basically, anything can. Kids, adults even, will always find something to use against another person, to criticize them with. While we'd like to think we could give a great name to avoid that, thing is, we just don't know what will happen, as evidence by my name. The focus shouldn't be on the names, it should be on the bad behavior. The teasing from kids, the abuse from adults. If people were brought up to be kind and respectful of everyone, it shouldn't matter what someone is called.

[lalazizara.livejournal.com]

hahahahaha thats new jersey for ya