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[arbus.livejournal.com]

i am heartbroken.

the man and i have been casually tossing around names. we both have the baby bug, big time, and are probably going to start trying within the year.

so finally, after all this time, a couple of days ago, i told him what my favorite name in the whole world is...

francesca

its been my absolute number one favorite for a long time.

i have others i love too, but this one is very special to me.

his response? "francesca [hislastname*] sounds HORRIBLE!!" only to be followed by "it sounds like a soft drink - have some refreshing fran-CHESS-caaaaaaaaah" *insert his unnecessary sound effects of popping a soda can open here*

it made me quite sad. it has a LOT of meaning for me!

1. my maternal grandfathers name was francis
2. the patron saint of my birthday is st francis of assisi
3. the mans confirmation name is francis (also after st francis of assisi)
4. st francis of assisi is the patron saint of animals - my man is a veterinarian and i have done tons of shelter work and the like, we are both HUGE animal lovers
5. it means "freedom" which is just very special to me
6. frankie is thee most kickass nickname for a little girl

the only additional response i got was "what about chloe?" *vomit*

help!

*hislastname = think spyder, kind of, with one of the letters changed

Comments

[wistfuljen.livejournal.com]

My honest advice is to wait until you are actually pregnant to begin debating names, for a couple of reasons. First, building your relationship should be more important than any children that are in the potential stage, and second, when you are actually pregnant, your name taste may change totally. When I was pregnant with my son, my husband and I agreed on a few potential names, and then when I was seven months pregnant one day I KNEW my son's name was Holden. Wasn't a name either of us had considered at ALL. My husband didn't like the name at ALL- but when you are actually carrying the child, your opinion may go a lot further ;) I cried for three days straight until hubby agreed, and as soon as he was born we both agreed that Holden fit him PERFECTLY.

You are both not likely to agree right at the outset. Give it some time, when it's a real pertinent issue to your relationship, and both of you may have a different view.

[arbus.livejournal.com]

i appreciate the advice. we are building our relationship, which is why we casually get on the topic of childrens names sometimes. he enjoys discussing it, and we joke around about it, so it isnt like its a super serious conversation we are having. i suspect it wont turn into a serious discussion until we are actually pregnant, which if all goes well, will be relatively soon. :)

[wistfuljen.livejournal.com]

Sorry, when you said you were 'heartbroken' I assumed it was quite a serious issue. Good luck turning him around! :) Francesca is a gorgeous name and I have a lot of personal ties to Francis as well.

edited for typo

[arbus.livejournal.com]

i guess i was being sarcastic/dramatic. i am sad about it, but ill get over it. thank you! :)

[illy-borgia.livejournal.com]

I know this has nothing to do but I went to a school when I was little called 'St. Francis of Assisi' (well it was in spanish though but it's the same name, same saint).

Ok... had to get that out.

Did you try to explain to hi why this name means so much to you? Maybe you can still use it as a middle name and still call her Frankie? (I somtimes go by El/Eli, from my middle name)

[arbus.livejournal.com]

thanks for the advice. our middle name is already set for our first girl, it will be colleen after my mother, who passed away four years ago.

i did explain to him why francis/francesca has so much meaning to me, but he wasnt really swayed. the whole conversation was lighthearted, so i think once the time comes, we will be more serious about it.

at least we both adore the name ruby. :)

[selador.livejournal.com]

sorry, dani is the most kick ass name for a girl. =]

[arbus.livejournal.com]

my horrible ex is named daniel, so i dont think my man would go for that :P i guess i love boys names for nicknames for girls. i just think frankie is the sweetest thing!

[ollivander.livejournal.com]

A girl named Dani is one of my most unpleasant memories from High School :P

[0o-faerie.livejournal.com]

That.

Personally, I like Frances a lot better.

[arbus.livejournal.com]

he suggested that too, actually. i am not a big fan of frances, but do not despise it, so could possibly be swayed. :/

[0o-faerie.livejournal.com]

You could still use Frankie as a nickname, in that case!

[arbus.livejournal.com]

true, but i would like to be able to call her frankie AND her full name without cringing. frances just doesnt do it for me. like i said, i dont despise it, but i think francesca is SO much prettier. frances is just so... matronly!

[goaskyourmother.livejournal.com]

Don't worry, my husband has done that with names only for him to change his mind weeks later.

[th3-unicorn.livejournal.com]

Actually in most parts of Italy it's Frahn-CHAY-scah.
It's hard to explain in english, as you don't quite have that sound.
It's the same sound you hear at the end of any french past participle (je suis allé, that é sound)

Maybe it won't win your husband, but I thought I'd offer it :)

I have an ex named Francesco.

[adamantplatypus.livejournal.com]

I like Franca. It's more harsh sounding, but that's awesome in my book.

[miss-tee.livejournal.com]

I like Francesca, but that's the way the cookie crumbles in a relationship. The baby will be both of yours so you both have to agree on the name.
I feel you though, my husband hates all my favourite girl names.

[arbus.livejournal.com]

yea i agree. at least we both love ruby.

we havent even touched on boys names yet. eek. well, except for him to inform me that "he will be a wimp if we name him oliver!" my number one boys name. :/

[jyl-mac.livejournal.com]

You have great reasons for picking Francesca and I actually like it too (my very first cabbage patch was named that, hehe) but I can see where he is coming from. It's a bit much for modern times I think.

[aquilinum.livejournal.com]

Francesca and Meadow are both super trendy for a certain set of British parents. Lots of almost 10 year olds born to nouveau hippie high-earning parents with those names.

[aquilinum.livejournal.com]

... I replied to the wrong Francesca post? Oh, well. Oops.

[neverstarsburn.livejournal.com]

i knew a girl with that name in elementary school who pronouned it fran-sess-kuh, i think its a sort of cute version, she still spelled it francesca though

[quite-rosie.livejournal.com]

I love that name, and considered it too... but I'm naming our baby (she'll be here in December) Amelia. Francesco was my grandpa's name, so I thought it might be a nice way to honor him.

[krosp.livejournal.com]

Aww... I probably wouldn't have thought much for the name Francesca, if not for the fact that the first time I heard it was on a real person that I met, so I immediately liked the name. I think all your reasons for why you like it are great.

My husband has grown to completely love things that he originally hated, because I liked them and it slowly grew on him. Sometimes even without a whole lot of persuasion on my part. I am not too sure how stubborn your man is though, but there is a chance he could come around too. Would you be so sad if you could at least get it as a middle name? Because I reckon that if he slowly digests all your good reasons for the name, he might start to at least accept it even if he doesn't love it.