ext_330612 ([identity profile] 0o-faerie.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] babynames2008-02-02 10:42 am

Question

Would it be really weird to name a black child Lily, or a white child Ebony?

[identity profile] crzydimond.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see why. I know a white girl with bright red hair who is named Ebony!
They are both nice names regardless.

[identity profile] crzydimond.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it a common name for African American females?
I live in Australia, so I would be lucky to meet half a dozen African Americans in my life time!
That's why it seems normal on a white girl to me.

[identity profile] jordle.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 11:00 am (UTC)(link)
No.

[identity profile] satunian.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
Considering i know a really awesome black girl named Lily, I don't see why. Naming her IVORY on the other hand might be a little weird as might Ebony... but I suppose either could still work.

[identity profile] th3-unicorn.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
funny that Lily is a shade of lilac to me :D

Ivory maybe more typical for the oxymoron, but then it's something quite exotic (I'm thinking elephant horns, as well), so it wouldn't be a mismatch for a black girl!

Ebony is wood, on the other hand, so although it doesn't make sense, it makes me think of forests.. and forests are next to Ireland in my mind, and basically only albino is whiter than Irish.. so there :P

[identity profile] smasharash.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. I know a little white girl called Ebony.

[identity profile] lustdumpster.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
i think ebony on a white girl is weird, but that's just me. it would be no different than naming a white girl shaniqua, and i actually knew one of those a few years ago. ebony is a classy name and everything, but whenever i hear it, i expect a black girl. like if i did meet a white girl named ebony, i would think it was strange but it wouldn't necessarily be a problem.

lily on a black girl would be fine though. i think more of the flower when i hear that, rather than a skin color connotation. in that movie cloverfield, one of the main characters is a woman of mixed race (i'm not positive but she looks either black/white or black/indian to me) and her name in the movie is lily.

[identity profile] aballard23.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Lily on a black girl would fit better than Ebony on a white girl, personally.

[identity profile] tryyingtoevolve.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Lily on a black girl would fit, but Ebony is awful, regardless of the race of the child.

[identity profile] daydream11.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.

No way around it. I can't imagine a black girl being named Lily (this comes from a black girl) and a white girl named Ebony (it seems wrong, like it doesn't match).

[identity profile] sandtree.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
People name non-red children Ruby and non-green children Emerald, so I don't see the problem.

[identity profile] solagirl.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
And non-purple people Violet!

Both of these names are fine for anyone.

I also like Blanca and Bianca.

[identity profile] mountain-nest.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
nah :)

[identity profile] aquilinum.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Anybody who blinks at naming a white baby Ebony or a black baby Lily and says it's because of a clash in meaning should also please publicly frown upon the following:

* All color names, unless they mean "somewhere on the spectrum between ivory and dark brown, with pinkish and peachy tones"
* All size/height origin names, unless the parents are certain that the baby will grow to the appropriate name (example: Brady, stemming probably from a word for "large-chested")
* All occupation names, unless baby is bound legally to enter said field

... etc.


I find it interesting that there's more of an "issue" with naming a white baby Ebony than naming a black baby Lily. Is it some purely subconscious judgment that trying to appear more white is okay, but trying to appear more black is not?

[identity profile] cxtxc.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Very good point. I know a lot of black girls named Britney, Ashley, Lauren, etc and it's normal/acceptable. I've yet to meet a white girl named Latoya, Shaniece, or LaQuan. I think people would look down on that, and maybe there is some subconscious reasons for that.

[identity profile] solagirl.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I know a white girl named Tyeesha. She usually goes by Ty. It caught me by suprise for about 2 seconds, then it seemed normal.

[identity profile] alexandria-skye.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
i don't see anything wrong with it. i just don't really like the name ebony...

[identity profile] imthelonely-one.livejournal.com 2008-02-05 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
I have a friend whose name is Bianca. She's black. :P

[identity profile] yellowsummers.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
One of my friends is a black girl named Bianca, and there's another at my school and I never found it weird. I think Lily could fit pretty much any appearance.

I'm not a fan of the name Ebony in general.