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[blacmeissa.livejournal.com]

Hello ! Nice to meet you all ! 
So the spotlight brought me to this stage lol.
I'm childfree so no naming kids for me :(.. but I intend to be a comic artist / animator so I have liking for
creating stories and characters to go with them ( that's where my obsession with names come from ).

As for me personally I want to change my entire name when I'm older especially my last name ( because it's long ). Names I have thought of naming myself were Jessica , Amylynne , Christina , Rubina , Yeva , Nasri , Samire , Liliya .
I love the nameJessica no matter how common it seems xD. This is silly but you know how some restaurants at first they ask your name and when your order is ready they call what you order and your name well....I use Jessica a lot .

So I just have a question :

1.)  Do you think names should be limited to a nationality or a culture or should ppl be free to name their kids / themselves whatever they please ? ( ex. My friends who are a Caucasian couple named their baby girl Miyavi ( which is a Japanese name ) and their parents & co workers said it was stupid to name a white child with an Asian name. Now I am Asian and I have a western name yet no one has ever said anything bad ). Now probably the grandparents said that cause the child may get bullied , commented on for having a strange name but I kinda notice this attitude in general towards Asian , African and some Eastern European names so it made me wonder .

I'm not meaning to pick on any one race or seem discriminatory so I appologize in advance if I come off as that :(
I'm just genuinely curious.

Comments

[schexyschteve.livejournal.com]

I think sometimes it's a little strange. I like the names India and Amira, but they would look kind of weird on my future lily-white child. If you have a connection to the culture (like you visit Japan quite often, and then pick a Japanese name for your child), I think it's "better" than just randomly picking a name.

[jen-chan13.livejournal.com]

My uneducated and inexpert opinion is that foreign culture parents choose "American" names for their children in hopes that they'll blend in and be more accepted. I can respect that desire, certainly - there are many foreign names that make unfortunately good jokes when used in English, and I would never wish for my child to be teased over something as integral and self-identifying as their own name.

Same to you, btw - you should be called whatever is most internal to your identity, and if that happens to be something other than your legal name... it's your right to change that, or not, whatever your preference is.

As for the other way around - I dislike the idea of giving children "cool" names. Children are not pets, they're people, and they'll probably spend the rest of their lives identifying themselves by the names they're given at birth. I think if the parents of Miyavi (Japanese? Really? Because I didn't think Japanese tended towards the letter V, even in romaji...) had a particular meaning associated with the name, either personally or by its actual definition, then that's a perfectly good reason to name their daughter based on that meaning. Even just thinking a name is beautiful, imho, is a good enough reason to use that name for your child, foreign or otherwise.

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[ealexsism.livejournal.com]

I think you should name your child whatever name you like.

That said, I think people might expect someone else if they see the name in print. For example, if you're interviewing or meeting someone who is named Ryan, you might expect a boy-- but our generation is naming girls Ryan. No biggie, but just a point.

Also, I'm white and my husband is of Indian decent. His last name is Patel (a very Indian name), and I feel like it's not fitting for me, but eventually I plan to change my name. I just think ppl will expect a dark complexion when I walk through the door.

[qtshorty1625.livejournal.com]

My opinion tends to lean with those who already commented: if there's a "reason" for the name, then, okay. Parents and child should be prepared to constantly explain the story though. To pick a name that is pretty much strictly one nationality simply for something "unique" and without having a connection with the nationality, would cause me to raise my eyebrow in secret, but I wouldn't say anything to the parents.

There's a hockey player named Mathieu Schneider who was born in New York. I was trying to figure out why a guy born in New York with a German-sounding last name would have a French spelling for a first name. Then I found out that his mother is French Canadian, and suddenly the first name made more sense to me.

All of that being said, names are constantly getting "adopted" (along with words, LOL) from different cultures into the U.S. (and for that matter, other countries), so what at one point would be simply associated with one culture, could, at some point, spread across country borders.

[snapes-mistress.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I was gonna say the same; I'm pretty sure they got their spelling wrong... there is no V sound in Japanese... Miyabi is a name, but not Miyavi...

[blacmeissa.livejournal.com]

I know what you mean. I'd expect a brown person as well ( I have some Indian in me as well ) as long as you're ok with the change but I think after a while and if others know your husband is Indian they'll understand.

[blacmeissa.livejournal.com]

True .

[blacmeissa.livejournal.com]

Well there are " V " sounds but it's incorporated for foreign words only not in the actual Japanese language so Miyavi would indeed be Miyabi....but there is a Japanese rock star with that name and I'm kinda suspecting it's after him they named her. Also thank you for the part concerning the name change . I also think the cool name thing is silly & you're right they will identify by it unless they change it.

[xlightbringerx.livejournal.com]

To my ears it's, for lack of a MUCH better word, mildly racist for somebody to say something like "You shouldn't give a white kid an Asian name," probably because I'm often hearing similar sentiments that don't have to do with names. (e.g. someone told one of my Lolita friends "I hate when white people wear Asian clothes" wtf? People around the world have been wearing Lolita for over a decade...)

I think the actual issue is when a name sounds foreign but the person isn't foreign, it's strange to people's ears/eyes, and might be hard to pronounce. That is something I can agree with.

On another note, naming a child Miyavi is kind of like naming them Madonna...I hope they don't regret doing that :/

[harinakshi.livejournal.com]

And if you have kids and they end up dark like him, people will wonder where it came from, or if they're light like you and he's with them then people will wonder as well. As a racially mixed mother of creamy white skinned, light eyed, blonde girls, people automatically wonder if I'm the nanny or what my husband looks like despite the fact that both of my girls have all of my actual features. People just can't get past color. Same with names, certain names they'll associate with certain colors. But if you don't care what race your spouse is, their name and what people might think of it shouldn't matter either, especially if you plan on having children!

(I'm tired so I hope this all came out as cohesively as it sounded in my head, lol)

[quinnthevixen.livejournal.com]

Agreed, especially with your first point. I also think there's is much more appreciation for (or pressure for) cultural assimilation towards, for lack of a better term, white culture, so people are more accepting of people of other races/nationalities taking on names from the dominant (i.e. white, American) culture, but doing it the other way around is seen as a counter-culture move, perhaps. Just my 2.

[harinakshi.livejournal.com]

While I've heard too many terrible names to say "people should name their child whatever they want" (zombieheart, anyone?) I don't think you should feel stuck to a certain culture or nationality, that's just too close minded. Just be certain of the spelling and meaning before you stick your kid with it and end up looking stupid later.

As for your name, if you don't like it, change it, definitely. I grew up hating my name because I felt different, but then as an adult I just can't see myself with any other name. I don't hate my name anymore and I don't like it either, but it's me, and I can't see me as anything else. But if you see yourself as Jessica, then go for it:)

[ealexsism.livejournal.com]

Yea, I've heard friends complain about this before (I have a friend who adopted a child of a different race than her & her husband), and while I can see it bothering me, I'm not as concerned for some reason. I feel like people that ignorant aren't worth my time/energy.

[ealexsism.livejournal.com]

Yea, I don't care that much, it's just something I've thought about. Honestly, if ppl can't realize that not all Patel's look alike, they need to get a clue.

[harinakshi.livejournal.com]

The first couple of times it happened I was offended, but played nice. I'm over it now but, seriously, if I go out into public there's about an 80% chance someone is going to inquire about our different skin tones, it gets old after awhile! That and people asking if they're twins even though there is almost a 2 year and 10 inch difference between them.

[ealexsism.livejournal.com]

Yea, maybe the reason it doesn't bother me is because we don't have children yet (although that's due to change around next May!)... and it hasn't happened. But seeing how his sister's children look and if ours look anything like hers (her children are also 1/2 white), my husband will probably get most of the questions/side-eye.

I'm bummed, I wish you were interested in adding ppl to your LJ-- I just looked at your profile & it says you're not too fond of it. If that changes, let me know I'd love to be friends!

[shakeycat.livejournal.com]

Similarly, I've heard from my friends teaching in Japan that there are little boys named "Gackt" now.

As far as Miyavi goes, it sounds like it would just be mistaken for
Mia V., in which case the parents could've just called her Mia (V or B middle name) and enjoyed their inner joke.

[cremepuff.livejournal.com]

Ooh...I like Rubina.

[starringmyeye.livejournal.com]

I love the name Sunkyu,which is Korean(where I lived for two years). If I have a daughter I would love to call her that,but I don't want to look like the ignorant white person.

[blacmeissa.livejournal.com]

My name actually means Sorrow in Latin ..sorrowful about what I don't know xD
Also Thank you for being encouraging :3

[blacmeissa.livejournal.com]

I've heard that name before xD

[snapes-mistress.livejournal.com]

Yeah, most Japanese people can't even make the V sound... all my students sing, "T-U-B-W-X-Y-Z," ;)