Mc and Mac

[bohemianvegan.livejournal.com]

I have noticed that for American girl baby names, many people are naming their girls names that begin with "Mc" or "Mac". McKenna, McKayla, McKaelyn, Maclayne, etc.
I do wish those parents realized that "Mc" and "Mac" started out with Gaelic (Scottish) names meant "son of". That's why there are people with last names like "McDonald", "MacArthur", etc.
I do think the trend started with names like Michaela to find new spellings. If people do like those names, they should just spell them without the Mc or Mac.

Mikayla, Michaela, Mikenna, and so forth.

Comments

[adamantplatypus.livejournal.com]

I think naming kids last names as first names is stupid, in and of itself.

That said, "son of" makes no difference on a girl. If she's McKenna as a first name or McKenna as a last name, it's still "son of" and she's still female. Most people don't pick their last names, either, ya know?

[bohemianvegan.livejournal.com]

That's right. People with Scottish background have those last names because they're inherited. That's common in European backgrounds, why many names also end in "son" or "sen". Irish names can begin with "O'" for the same reason. I do think it would be interesting to find out how naming was done in Europe back in the day.

Iceland is probably the only country now that still makes sure people carry their father's name as their surname. Everyone has a name ending in either "dottir" or "sen". For example, if someone's father's name is Henri, their name would be either Henrisdottir or Henrisen.

[sweetest-asylum.livejournal.com]

i do not agree with giving special snowflake spellings

[adamantplatypus.livejournal.com]

Russian/Ukranian does this, as well, with the -ov being son and -ova being daughter.

There's more than just the Ov/Ova, but in general they add an a for the female surnames.

[nobodynomore.livejournal.com]

While I do not like Mc-names as first names anyway....Mikenna looks terrible.

[unboundvoice.livejournal.com]

I hate all of those names. I recently had a friend name her daughter Mackenzie and a cousin name her daughter mckinnley within a month of eachother. I just don't like the names and don't understand them. Especially starting the name with Mac- I keep thinking Mac-Kenzie with a double k sound haha.

[satunian.livejournal.com]

Polish people so it too with ski/ska (not in America though, I'm female and I'm a "ski")
Spanish-speaking cultures do it too with names ending in -ez. Martinez is the son of Martin, Rodriguez is the son of Rodrigo, etc...
I'm sure tons of other cultures do it too.

[satunian.livejournal.com]

yeah but so does McKenna :P They all look awful!

[bookity.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I named my daughter Michaela and would not accept any other spelling.

[lalazizara.livejournal.com]

This is rather nit picking. Many people who pick names do not go full into research mode about how the name is broken up and what each parts mean.

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[lady-of-clunn.livejournal.com]

Well, waaay back, there were no family names in Germany. First names were mostly the names of the godparents and parents. That made for a whole lot of Marias, Johannas, Hans' and Peters in the same place.

To distinguish one from the other, occupations, character traits or physical traits or more specific description of their home were added to the name.

Slowly, this extended to their children and became a family name, which could change, if they moved to a different town or area.

Every now and then people of the same name and occupation lived near each other. For example Hans Schuster (Cobbler/Shoemaker). What to do? A 'von' and their respective village, street, whatever were added without either of them being of noble descent.

Are you confused, yet? :)

Naming laws in Germany are very strict and I doubt that anything even remotely resembling a family name would be accepted as a first name. I had to sign a form when I wanted to name my daughter Tania (French/Italian/Spanish version of our name Tanja), stating that I really wanted to spell her name this way (and that the registry was not responsible - *headsdesk*).

[annanaka.livejournal.com]

Russians and Ukranians (and probably many other Slavs as well) also carry their fathers' names as patronymics, instead of having a given middle name. For example, my name is Anna Aleksandrovna Belyak because my father's name is Aleksandr Ivanovich Belyak.

Also, the "ov/ova" thing doesn't always apply, and when moving to other countries, women tend to drop the "a" to avoid confusion and match their husband's/father's names.

[annanaka.livejournal.com]

I feel like if you are going to choose something by which to call your child for the rest of his/her life, you should at least care enough to google it a few times and make sure it doesn't mean something idiotic/offensive/otherwise unpleasant...