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[kaoriz.livejournal.com]

So awhile back, we had a post on these three kids named Adolf Hitler Campbell and his two little sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell. Well, according to this article, the kids have just been removed from their homes from by the state.

I know it's probably because of something totally different, like abuse or neglect, but what do y'all think of the govt getting involved with children's names? In Italy you can't name a baby something embarrassing or a name of the opposite gender, and in Denmark, they actually have a list of pre-approved baby names that parents must choose from.

I'm personally leaning towards the no-embarrassing names rule, just because some names are completely ridiculous.

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[schexyschteve.livejournal.com]

If it stops people from abusing apostrophes and naming their children ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS stuff, I'm all for it. I don't mean banning things like Madison and Jaiden (as much as I'd like to), but stuff like the above. Or even if there were a list with approved spellings (which I imagine would be included in the pre-approved names).

[silvergirl22.livejournal.com]

I'm against naming kids HORRIBLE things (like the parents in Hawaii that named their child "Taloulah does the hula") that was her NAME!!!!!!!!!
Nasty!

[la-jolie-vie.livejournal.com]

I think there should be a rule against embarrassing and offensive names (such as Adolf Hitler or Aryan Nation). Once a child is 18, they may change their name to whatever they like as they are of legal age to make life-altering decisions. But I don't think that embarrassment (or bigotry) should be given to innocent children unwillingly. What a horrible thing for children to have to endure.

[love-in-war.livejournal.com]

while I think it would be a good idea to have some ground rules on names.... my only problem is who gets to be the one to say the name is embarrassing. a law like that could get pretty ridiculous really fast.

[lind-saay.livejournal.com]

I have no problem with those rules.

Except that I do, on principle, because I think it's a freedom of speech thing and it's a dangerous slope to start down. But I still think people shouldn't name their kids ridiculous things.

[kaoriz.livejournal.com]

Yup, in Denmark they have to be spelled like they are on the list

[la-jolie-vie.livejournal.com]

I believe in freedom of speech if it only affects you and doesn't harm anyone else. Naming a kid "asslick" could be seriously detrimental to his/her mental well-being.

[cure-rocker.livejournal.com]

in the video the mom is talking about how it's hurtful for people to make fun of her kids names but what about the jews that suffered under adolf hitler's reign?

ultimate hypocrite y/n?

[nandy-pandy.livejournal.com]

It's hard to say. On the one hand, I think it's terrible that some poor kid is stuck with a name like Aryan Nation or Talulah Does The Hula From Hawaii or Superman/4Real. It's hard to say where the line should be drawn between creative and ridiculous, or by whose definition a name could be considered too ridiculous to be used on a child.

[fleckerbug.livejournal.com]

I think the government should keep their nose out of lot of things, what I name my child included.

[ugottafriend.livejournal.com]

YES! THANK YOU CHILD SERVICES!

They were probably taken into custody so that the judge could legally change their names...remember Talullah Does The Hula From Hawaii?

I hope and pray that these 3 innocent children are given new names. Surely that's what is happening.

[jerseygrits.livejournal.com]

Ditto.

[rewashed.livejournal.com]

Let me just say this: the day America passes a law telling me what I can and cannot name my child, my shit will be packed and I will be gone faster than fried chicken at an after church supper.

I think it's ludicrous that governments in other countries would pass laws like that. Um, hello, rights?

Thank God they took the little Nazi babies away though. Poor kids.

[rewashed.livejournal.com]

yes!

[rewashed.livejournal.com]

y. definitely y.

[laminy.livejournal.com]

I don't know. I'm kind of torn. On one hand, I do think that those names were completely awful, and the parents were only using their children as their own form of anti-Semitic propaganda, and Tallulah Does the Hula From Hawaii was just beyond ridiculous.

But laws like you've mentioned, in Italy and Denmark, I really am against. I don't think that that's fair. Especially in Denmark, a pre-approved list? That's Tallulah Does the Hula beyond ridiculous.

[chirpygirly.livejournal.com]

Within reason, a name shouldn't matter, that's not where the focus should be. It should be on the fact that there are people who are judgmental, disrespectful, and just plain unkind.

As I mentioned in a previous post about this news, I am named Jennifer. A perfectly normal name by most people's standards, that most wouldn't think should be of concern for any possible problems.

Well, growing up with such a popular name is quite frustrating actually. And it certainly didn't help to make me feel special as say a unique name would.

Also, I grew up with a relative only slightly younger than me. He had trouble saying my name when he was young, it came out something different. Something unpleasant, that became a nick name for me that remains to this day. People have also created equally embarrassing nick names from it, one that came about because of my appearance. It's hurtful. Point is, as much as we'd like to think there's names out there that wont cause any issues, we just don't know what will happen, because there will always be kids and adults, who fill find something to pick on another person for. And it's those kids and adults who don't know how to properly treat people who have the real issue and they're the ones who should be looked at, and who should examine themselves and learn it's not right.

And I just want to note, that there's obviously ridiculous names that of course I'm not condoning being used. But some creative names, or names with different spellings, don't deserve the criticism. We're individuals with individual tastes for a reason, we should remember that and be more respectful of that. If a group of people are going to try to control something like names, what's next. You take away one area where freedom should be allowed, and like someone else said, it's a slippery slope.

[chirpygirly.livejournal.com]

Perhaps you should educate yourself on social services.


http://familyrights.us/protecting_children/articles/above_law.html

familyrightsassociation.com

fightcps.com

And ask a child what's worse, a name that judgmental, disrespectful, unkind people choose to tease them over, or being torn away from their home, thier toys, their room, their comfort space, but most importanly, the parents they love, and the ensuing life long effects of the emotional trauma caused from the separation.

Names aren't the problem, people are.

[girlsteve.livejournal.com]

I think there might be a place to stop people giving their kids offensive names - if there is a law stopping me from writing 'shit head' or 'Aryan Nation Forever' on the wall of a primary school, then there are logical grounds that I can't write it on my kids birth certificate. To, that seems like a fair line - if it is already considered indecent in the eyes of the law, then there are grounds to stop you naming your kid that. If not, and it's juat a question of what is ridiculous, then I do think it's too subjective and too restrictive. But then I might be biased. After all, almost all of my mothers name choices for me, including the one she went with, would certainly have been included...

[fleckerbug.livejournal.com]

Your user pic is so creepy (but pretty). If I look at my monitor straight on, like normal, it looks very muted, almost just shadows or as if it were cast in plaster, but if I tip m laptop back and look up at the pic, I can see tons more detail and a lot more color. It's neat. :)

[fleckerbug.livejournal.com]

But then there's no law keeping you from emblazoning it on your living room walls. Public vs. private.

[chirpygirly.livejournal.com]

Thank you. :) It wasn't done on purpose either haha. I used my brothers cheap digital camera, set on 'night portrait', in the house, with the lights on, AND I moved last minute, that was the result. I almost deleted it but then I thought the same as you, creepy/pretty.

[krosp.livejournal.com]

Not sure where you'd flee to though, America seems to have a lot more freedom than most countries in things like this although I'm sure there are others that don't restrict naming too. Here in Australia I know there are a few naming laws, but it doesn't seem to make a difference to most people and I don't really mind because people are so unlikely to want to break those laws anyway. I think it's just things like, it can't have numbers or unpronouncable symbols, it can't be an official title like Sergeant, stuff like that. I'm sure those few laws make things simpler overall and there are plenty of other ways to get creative with names that are legal. I definitely don't think that names should only be chosen off an approved list though, am glad I'm not in one of those countries! (although it might make the decision a little easier lol)

[smallandneedy.livejournal.com]

in Norway, where I'm from, we have to stick by a few rules set down by the government. It's not as extreme as Denmark, our law just states that you cannot name a child something that will be a disadvantage for them. However, the law has become more flexible seeing as more and more immigrants settle down in Norway and use names from their own countries.

I remember when 2000 came along, the couple who had the first newborn in 2000 wanted to name him Thomas Millennium or something, so they had to send in an application in order to get Millennium approved. I think it got approved, but I can't remember exactly.